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US terror plot to ‘wipe out a neighbourhood’
The Sunday Times ^ | June 13, 2004 | John Follain

Posted on 06/12/2004 4:29:09 PM PDT by MadIvan

A MAN linked to Al-Qaeda and believed to have helped to mastermind the Madrid train bombings was overheard last month describing a plot for a woman to carry out a chemical or germ attack in America that he said would “wipe out an entire neighbourhood”.

The Italian warrant for the arrest of Rabei Osman Sayed Ahmed, 32, an Egyptian seized in a suburb of Milan last week, details transcripts of bugged conversations and telephone calls in which he not only boasted of his involvement in the Spanish attack of March 11 but also spoke of future plans. The Spanish government has said it will seek the extradition of Ahmed — also known as “Mohamed the Egyptian”.

Ahmed moved to Milan in early April. Police surveillance teams nicknamed him “the trainer” because of his practice of befriending Muslim immigrants, finding out who was most dissatisfied with the West and asking: “What are you doing to change the situation?” A former Egyptian army explosives expert, he bears a sign of his religious devotion on his forehead — a weal caused by striking his head hard on the ground during Muslim prayers.

Bugs placed by anti-terrorist police in Ahmed’s one-bedroom flat recorded a conversation on May 26 with Yahia Payumi, 21, a Palestinian who was also later arrested.

After denouncing the torture by American troops of “our brothers in Iraq”, Ahmed was quoted as saying: “Hotaf has been prepared with many medicinal products. If they throw one stick, they wipe out an American neighbourhood.”

Although the woman named Hotaf was said to have been discovered, other women were ready to replace her, Ahmed added. “Amal, Hanan, Fatiha — you only need to call them and they come. God is great.”

A senior investigator said he believed Ahmed was referring to plans for a chemical or bacteriological attack.

Professor Paul Wilkinson, a terrorism expert at St Andrews University, said: “Al-Qaeda is more advanced on weaponising chemicals rather than biological agents, so I should think we’re talking about sarin gas, a cyanide-based weapon or a nerve gas.”

In the same May 26 conversation, Ahmed claimed responsibility for the Spanish bombings. “The Madrid attack was a project of mine and those who died as martyrs are my dear friends,” he said. “I, too, was ready to be blown up but they stopped me and we obey the will of God.”

In the arrest warrant, the Milan investigating magistrates Armando Spataro and Maurizio Romanelli wrote that Ahmed “undoubtedly played a role within Al-Qaeda”, both in organising the Madrid bombings in which 191 people died and in planning other attacks.

He first came to the attention of Milan police after Spanish authorities passed on their discovery of an Italian mobile phone used by Ahmed. Its number featured on the mobiles of four other people linked to the Madrid attack.

Italian investigators say Ahmed, who has lived in Germany, Spain, France and Belgium in the past four years, was responsible for recruiting prospective suicide bombers, and co-ordinated terrorist cells in Europe and beyond.

Two groups of suicide bombers were due to leave for Iraq in late June, he claimed. “We have to be everywhere — in Germany, the Netherlands and London. We are dominating Europe with our presence.”

In another telephone conversation, on May 29, Ahmed spoke to a Moroccan known only as Mourad, who lived in Belgium and was due in Paris soon to meet a terrorist apparently preparing to carry out a suicide attack.

According to Italian newspapers, Ahmed’s cell was planning an attack on the Paris underground, but this was denied by the investigating magistrates in Milan. They also denied press reports that other targets included Nato headquarters in Brussels and the European parliament in Strasbourg.

The transcripts reveal how Ahmed gradually managed to persuade Payumi to become a suicide bomber. “We young people must be the first ones to sacrifice ourselves,” he said. When Payumi finally announces, “I am ready to sacrifice myself,” Ahmed replies: “Consider yourself already in paradise.”


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To: MadIvan

Shame implies having some sentience beyond enlightened self interest.


21 posted on 06/12/2004 5:19:28 PM PDT by Righty1
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To: MadIvan

No problem...the other 1,999,999 neighborhoods will be more than happy ot demonstrate to them the error of their ways.


22 posted on 06/12/2004 5:29:09 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: MadIvan

Hey Al Qaeda: Start in this neighborhood.

23 posted on 06/12/2004 5:31:39 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: mewzilla

Reagan's funeral knocked the Abu Ghraib prison scandal out of the papers. Bet the Dems are really ticked.


24 posted on 06/12/2004 5:36:38 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: The Duke
"A former Egyptian army explosives expert, he bears a sign of his religious devotion on his forehead — a weal caused by striking his head hard on the ground during Muslim prayers. "

That explains a LOT!

Soon, more Americans will "GET IT" -- perhaps it will take the destruction of an American city....

Then perhaps, the meek will demand the destruction of large targets within the bowels of "Islam".....

Semper Fi

25 posted on 06/12/2004 5:40:30 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
This turd calls panties on the head torture compared to what his sicko "brothers" do?

Get with the program. Nothing a Muslim does against an infidel is ever worthy of censure. Nothing an infidel does against a Muslim is ever excusable, not even self-defense

26 posted on 06/12/2004 5:41:54 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: Dallas59

That will probably have a clarifying effect on their minds.


27 posted on 06/12/2004 6:00:53 PM PDT by livius
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To: MadIvan; Travis McGee
A former Egyptian army explosives expert, he bears a sign of his religious devotion on his forehead — a weal caused by striking his head hard on the ground during Muslim prayers.

Nothing a bigger weal wouldn't fix. Preferably one accompanied by an 'exit weal.'

28 posted on 06/12/2004 6:04:43 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Thud

ping


29 posted on 06/12/2004 6:16:22 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: cardinal4

Muerta alla al-qaida Italia anela....


30 posted on 06/12/2004 6:35:04 PM PDT by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: MadIvan
The Germans, French and Belgians should be ashamed.

THis is the least of the things they should be ashamed of.
31 posted on 06/12/2004 6:39:27 PM PDT by Desdemona
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To: MadIvan

Hey aren't you the Brit that freeped around here for years and then suddenly disappeared?

Rumours were you were working allot or fell in love ect....you if it is you were a late nighter and the all nighters missed you.

Back to the subject you posted these Al Queerdos have more plots and threats than Carter has liver pills.

If I was aquainted with someone who was all talk and never accomplished any goals I would not hang out with that person. Loser is what I call them.


32 posted on 06/12/2004 6:45:20 PM PDT by oceanperch ( 04 Bush.....He will continue to lead America with the Lords Blessing)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Why would Al Qaeda want to attack their safe house?


33 posted on 06/12/2004 6:50:06 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: MadIvan
After denouncing the torture by American troops of “our brothers in Iraq”, Ahmed was quoted as saying: “Hotaf has been prepared with many medicinal products. If they throw one stick, they wipe out an American neighbourhood.”

Thanks CBS. The crime had already been discovered, action was already being taken, but you just had to make those pictures public, didn't you?

How many people are going to die because our media is so far out of line?

34 posted on 06/12/2004 7:06:51 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Paleo Conservative

That's quite the shack. Who owns it?


35 posted on 06/12/2004 8:57:04 PM PDT by Denver Ditdat (Ronald Reagan belongs to the ages now, but we preferred it when he belonged to us.)
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To: MadIvan

If it happens, we should all hope that it is not Berkeley, Ithaca, Santa Cruz, or Madison.


36 posted on 06/12/2004 9:03:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: realpatriot

"We are dominating Europe with our presence.”
Everyone, get ready.


I guess if we dn't wipe out this menace in the ME then we will have the chance once they take over the EU.


37 posted on 06/12/2004 9:03:58 PM PDT by sawmill trash (NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!! NADER !!!)
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To: MadIvan
We're going to find out, sooner or later,

If Abdul will pray, to a glowing crater.

38 posted on 06/12/2004 9:08:11 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Denver Ditdat
Someone with the initials "BS".
39 posted on 06/12/2004 9:11:41 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Arpege92
When are these Muslims going to wake up?

Who knows? When they are dead maybe?

40 posted on 06/12/2004 9:11:51 PM PDT by Mark17
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