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Satellite Images 'Show Atlantis'
BBC ^ | 6-6-2004 | Paul Rincon

Posted on 06/06/2004 10:00:25 AM PDT by blam

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To: Sloth

BUMP!


21 posted on 06/06/2004 10:29:03 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: blam; Maceman; cyborg

Looks like a job for Richard C. Hoagland.


22 posted on 06/06/2004 10:34:49 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Yeah hehehe... last night Art was in rare form. He's a libertarian dontcha know. It was pretty entertaining.


23 posted on 06/06/2004 10:35:47 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: blam

The-RA! The-RA! The-RA!


24 posted on 06/06/2004 10:36:48 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: RightWhale
Search For 'Lost' Atlantis Centers On Strait Of Gilbralter
25 posted on 06/06/2004 10:36:52 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

"Way down below the ocean where I wanna be she may be,
My antediluvian baby, oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah"

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Go down to Tracks of Disc 1, click on number 8!


26 posted on 06/06/2004 10:37:05 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: blam
The sizes of the "island" and its rings in the satellite image are slightly larger than those described by Plato. There are two possible explanations for this, says Dr Kuehne.

First, Plato may have underplayed the size of Atlantis. Secondly, the ancient unit of measurement used by Plato - the stade - may have been 20% larger than traditionally assumed.

If the latter is true, one of the rectangular features on the "island" matches almost exactly the dimensions given by Plato for the temple of Poseidon.

Oh, please. In other words, the sizes don't match up.

Mr Wickboldt added that the Greeks might have confused an Egyptian word referring to a coastline with one meaning "island" during transmission of the Atlantis story.

In other words, this place is not the island described by Plato.

Dr Rainer Kuehne thinks the "island" of Atlantis simply referred to a region of the southern Spanish coast destroyed by a flood between 800 BC and 500 BC.

In other words, about 9,000 years too late for this to be Plato's Atlantis.

In order for Atlantis bugs to make their theories "work," they always have to assume that Plato got almost everything wrong. Which means that they are not talking about the land described by Plato.

The fabled utopia of Atlantis has captured the imagination of scholars for centuries. The earliest known records of this mythical land appear in Plato's dialogues Critias and Timaios.

Nonsensical raving from the BBC. This is like saying that "the earliest known records of the mythical land of Oceania appear in Orwell's 1984," or that "the earliest known records of the mythical Ebenezer Scrooge appear in Dickens's A Christmas Carol."

Plato made Atlantis up. That's why there is no record of an Atlantis story in Greek mythology. It was a fictional creation.

27 posted on 06/06/2004 10:37:40 AM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
The Search For Atlantis 'Ends At Ayia Napa' (Cyprus)
28 posted on 06/06/2004 10:40:20 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam; AntiGuv

It would be reasonable to assume that 11,000 years ago there were coastal settlements all over the world.

All these would now be 100 feet or so below sea level (depending on local conditions). There should be hundreds of 'Atlantis' settlements around the Old World.

And older settlements would be at deeper levels.


29 posted on 06/06/2004 10:41:18 AM PDT by edwin hubble
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To: BenLurkin; blam; Maceman; cyborg

Hoaxie?! Nah. Linda Moulton-Howe covers that type of stuff.


30 posted on 06/06/2004 10:43:35 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: ScottFromSpokane
"Plato made Atlantis up. That's why there is no record of an Atlantis story in Greek mythology. It was a fictional creation."

Nah. There is an Atlantis. It was destroyed with all the havoc at the end of the Ice Age...when the Mediterranean was partially empty and the rising water collapsed the dam at Gilbralter and reflooded the Mediterranean ...and, a couple thousand years later flooded the Black Sea, Noah's Flood?

31 posted on 06/06/2004 10:44:17 AM PDT by blam
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To: ScottFromSpokane

All you wrote may be true, but it is also possible that a place such as described in this article was the basis for the story Plato wrote.


32 posted on 06/06/2004 10:44:41 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: ScottFromSpokane

Yeah, it is just another Utopia. The perfect city with the perfect gov't. Western mythology of the Golden Age.


33 posted on 06/06/2004 10:46:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: ScottFromSpokane
"That's why there is no record of an Atlantis story in Greek mythology. It was a fictional creation."

Now wait just a darned minute! The records of Atlantis were destroyed in the fire at the library of Alexandria. A few ancient scrolls did survive, and have been translated as the "Mediterranean Inquirer". Although the tales from Atlantis were lost, fragments of stories about two headed babies, diet secrets of the Babylonians, and the Pharaoh meeting with space aliens remain.
34 posted on 06/06/2004 10:50:41 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Well, anything might be true.

The problem here is that there is no evidence of an "Atlantis myth" which predated Plato. With no evidence that Plato had ever heard of this Spanish flood, there is no reason to postulate a connection.

Another problem is that any disaster-stricken city which inspired Plato to create Atlantis would still not really be Atlantis, any more than Dr. Joseph Bell was Sherlock Holmes. In fact, it would likely have far less in common with Plato's fictional city than Bell did with Conan Doyle's fictional detective. It would certainly not be the advanced civilization which Plato portrayed.

If Plato's inspiration for Atlantis could be identified, that would be a mildly interesting literary and historical tidbit, but nothing more.

35 posted on 06/06/2004 10:57:08 AM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: Flyer; humblegunner; Allegra; GOP_Thug_Mom; Axiom Nine; TheMom; Eaker; Xenalyte; thackney; ...

Verrrrrry interesting ping and bttt


36 posted on 06/06/2004 11:00:00 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Always finish what you st)
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To: ScottFromSpokane
All true. See my 34 for a more tongue in cheek look at the subject.

I understand that Virgil used the story of the Trojan War to make commentary about politics in contemporary Rome when writing the Aeneid. Queen Dido was a stand in for Cleopatra. I do believe that Plato was using his Atlantis story in the same way to make political or social commentary. Just like the was kernel of truth to the Trojan War, which of course was changed over the years to fit other needs, there may be a kernel of truth to Atlantis. That's my only point.
37 posted on 06/06/2004 11:07:47 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: AntiGuv

Are these the same guys who claimed they saw the Great Wall from sat imagery?!


38 posted on 06/06/2004 11:07:48 AM PDT by TheExperiment_Is_Over
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To: blam

Plato was not stupid, and he knew what an island was. An island is an island. Kuehne sounds like he's trying to make a name for himself. I've got news for him - Spain is not an island! But nice try.


39 posted on 06/06/2004 11:11:23 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: TheExperiment_Is_Over

Its was Bushes fault


40 posted on 06/06/2004 11:11:47 AM PDT by cynicalman
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