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To: inflation; DoughtyOne

Pitiful situation. When I was in grad school 20 years ago, it seemed like a third of all the grad students around me in engineering and the sciences were Chicom nationals, almost all the sons and daughters of China's political elite. Not only have rats handed them our technology on a silver platter, we've been training our enemies for a generation now how to take that technology and run with it, improve upon it, and discover who knows what? Makes me sick.


11 posted on 05/24/2004 5:51:54 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

About all we can do is spout off on it. Just like those who cursed those who financed Germany and Japan, you and I will get the boobie prize of knowing we told folks so. Our trade policies and agreements, our illegal immigration fiasco and even the terrible policies that see radical middle-eastern nation's people immigrate here in huge numbers, will take us down on their own. I'd step on a hell of a lot of toes if I went on. I do consider it traiterous, sedicious and subversive.


13 posted on 05/24/2004 5:57:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: LibWhacker
Not only have rats handed them our technology on a silver platter, we've been training our enemies for a generation now how to take that technology and run with it, improve upon it, and discover who knows what? Makes me sick.

Why can't you wake up and realize the Republicans sell us out just as bad as the rats? Who was president 20 years ago when you were in grad school? What has Bush done to correct this problem?

18 posted on 05/24/2004 6:07:45 PM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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More of them stayed here than left. And if they hadn't stayed, the US wouldn't be where it is today. I'm friends with the children of those that stayed and they're as patriotic as anyone. Their parents are greater successes here than they possibly could've been in China and they know it. They are not just the kids of China's political elite. It would be better for the US to attract those bright students and get them to stay rather than keep them out or drive them out. They would just go elsewhere to get a similar education and then go back to China. Even today, there are over 400,000 European researchers in the US because it's the best place to conduct high level research.

At Pfizer La Jolla where my brother works, over a 1/3 of the researchers are from outside the US. Many are Chinese nationals on their way to becoming US citizens and plenty are kids of Chinese nationals who emigrated here in the 70's. (The largest contingent are Canadians but I'm guessing you don't have a problem with them.) The US has acted as a brain drain on the rest of the world for decades and continues to do so. Good thing too or the US wouldn't have its huge technological lead. If you want to stop immigration, there are two groups that I'd go after before grad students: Muslims and illegals.

A family friend's life and career was stalled because a white fellow co-worker falsely accused him of selling secrets to the Chinese in order to get a promotion both had been considered for. A year long FBI investigation cleared him but his career at Raytheon was finished. He started multi-million dollar semi-conductor fabicration plants in China, Taiwan and the US a few years later. It's this type of BS that is causing a higher percentage of grad students (Chinese included) to go back to their country of origin rather than stay (as the majority used to).

Every country has talent that can improve upon technology. China has a billion people people to draw from and I'm not so myopic as not to give them credit for their inventions, developments or improvements even if they used other's technology. No one country is responsible for all development. The US even used Nazi and Imperial Japan's research after WWII.


38 posted on 05/24/2004 7:58:01 PM PDT by pragmatic_asian
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"we've been training our enemies for a generation now how to take that technology and run with it, improve upon it, and discover who knows what? Makes me sick."

You forgot the part about Americans funding the Chicom military through purchases made at Walmart, Target, etc. You may puke now.


59 posted on 05/25/2004 6:58:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: LibWhacker

"Not only have rats handed them our technology on a silver platter, we've been training our enemies for a generation now how to take that technology and run with it, improve upon it, and discover who knows what? Makes me sick."

Not only that but when the final conflict happens, it will be the first time in history that one nation(China)planned and funded it's war build-up off of trade with it's enemy (U.S.).


94 posted on 05/26/2005 10:52:16 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Seven disloyal senators sold the chance to crush the democrats for tv face time.)
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