Posted on 05/24/2004 5:27:29 PM PDT by LibWhacker
"They OWN both ends of the Panama canal. How many people they have down there is anybodys guess."
But Panama itself is actually very pro-American. Not just the government but also the vast majority of the people love the US. They even dollarized their currency, that is they use the US dollar as their official currency.
Other countries aren't suicidal. If they were to try a full on invasion, the US has enough nukes to blow everyone up. There's no advantage for anyone to occupy the US. Without the US as the customer of choice for the world economy, the world would go into a depression that would make the Great Depression look like a lark.
Yup. That's what I remember too.
You're jumping to conclusions, PA. I actually like Chinese people a lot. I'm married to a wonderful woman who is half-Chinese and we have a lot of Chinese friends, but unlike you, I can't say that I've noticed they are particularly patriotic, to say the least -- unless it's patriotic toward China -- just opportunistic (which, btw, I don't have a problem with). Many of them are thoroughly brainwashed and very touchy about any criticism of that dictatorship. They're here to make a buck and get an education at the best universities in the world and then go back and help their country. I've heard this reasoning from them over and over and over again. And let's not forget, China does require them to return after their education. We should be much more cautious in allowing foreigners to come here to study, imo (incl. Canadians).
Let's stand by and allow another totalitarian dictatorship to become a superpower, the last Cold War was so much fun!"
Oh, I don't think the Chinese are interested in a cold war.
China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC)
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/csic.htm
People's Liberation Army Navy
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/plan/
Report to Congress Pursuant to the FY2000 National Defense Authorization Act
ANNUAL REPORT ON THE MILITARY POWER OF THE PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
..............Doctrine of Preemption and Surprise.
Chinese doctrine continues to emphasize surprise, deception, and shock effect in the opening phase of a campaign.
In addition to development or procurement of “Assassin’s Mace” weapon systems to counter intervening U.S. forces, China is exploring coercive strategies designed to bring Taipei to terms quickly.
Military Budget. In
March 2002, China announced a 17.5 percent or $3 billion increase in spending, bringing the publicly reported total to $20 billion.
Estimates of total spending range from $45 billion to $65 billion; annual spending could increase in real terms three- to four-fold by 2020.
For the fourth year in a row, contracts for advanced weapons systems from Russia were $ 2 billion--double the average annual figure throughout the 1990s.
ANNUAL REPORT ON THE MILITARY POWER OF THE PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:GmG-lH3nQBwJ:www.defenselink.mil/pubs/20030730chinaex.pdf+chinese+military&hl=en
Its not worth a crap though. Might be fast but the range is extremely limited. We had this discussion long ago with someone who knows a lot more than me.
He was some engineer of weapons systems specifically for the navy I think.
His main point was "yeah they might haul ass but they can't go beyong XX range...we can just sit back more than that XX range and hit them every time...Kind of like boxing with someone with 5 feet long arms"
Whoa hold on a minute. Since when did the rats become a majority party in congress? Its not just a few RINOs who are blocking correction of our open borders and so called free trade policy, its more like 95% of the republican party. As I said both parties are equally responsible.
Yes, indeed. This adds a whole new dimension to the term "free traitor" doesn't it?
Ok. WHY would they want to attack the US now?
Food. And simply power.
Straight out of the pages of your novel.
lot of people think that by paying the chicoms tribute in the form of a 100 billion dollar trade surplus every year will keep the Dragon peaceful and cooperative. I fear that they are in for a horrific awakening one day.
lot of people think that by paying the chicoms tribute in the form of a 100 billion dollar trade surplus every year will keep the Dragon peaceful and cooperative. I fear that they are in for a horrific awakening one day.
I've heard that argument, but I have always wondered what would happen if we aren't allowed to shoor first. Depending on the rules of engagement, isn't it possible they could get close enough to use these weapons to launch a Pearl Harbor style first strike? After all, if they knock out even one carrier our ability to project power would be badly reduced.
I will freely admit I don't know much about these things, and I not saying we should be panicing, but it does seem like it should be concenr, and maybe justify giving the Navy some budget help.
Actually, during the Reagan Administration (1987), Toshiba illegally sold to the USSR the data and tools to make really quiet propellers; undoubtedly, the Sov, er, Russians have shared this data with the Chicoms.
http://www.worldandi.com/specialreport/1991/january/Sa19127.htm
Knarf pinged me to this in post number 7, and I responded in post number 24.
I am afraid we are in potentially very dangerous waters as wemust continue in Iraq, and yet other belligerents are preparing in the Pacific...which is the exact scenario of the entire Dragon's Fury Series.
"we've been training our enemies for a generation now how to take that technology and run with it, improve upon it, and discover who knows what? Makes me sick."
You forgot the part about Americans funding the Chicom military through purchases made at Walmart, Target, etc. You may puke now.
So, do you believe, for example, that if someone were secretly in the PLA or even ErBu, and used being a student here as a means of spying, that this fact would be discovered by the typical H1B hiring and screening process at the typical corporation?
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