U.S. Forces Conducting Raids in Fallujah

DoD ^ | April 6, 2004 | Jim Garamone

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U.S. Forces Conducting Raids in Fallujah

By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, April 6, 2004 – U.S. forces have been conducting raids in Fallujah and have captured a number of high-value targets, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said in Norfolk, Va., today.

Rumsfeld and NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer held a joint press conference following a seminar at the headquarters for NATO's Allied Command Transformation.

The secretary said Marines have cordoned off Fallujah, a hotbed of anti- coalition activity and the site of the killings and mutilation of four U.S. security contractors March 31. "(U.S. forces) have captured a number of people over the past 36 hours," Rumsfeld said. "The city is isolated. A number of people have resisted and been killed. And it will be a methodical effort to find the individuals who were involved."

Rumsfeld said the Marines will be discriminating. "Clearly, all of the people of the city of Fallujah were not involved in what took place," he said.

The secretary said he will listen to the advice of coalition military leaders in determining whether to add more troops in Iraq. He said he will not second- guess commanders in Iraq from Washington. "Both the president and I frequently ask the military commanders if they have all they need -- if they have what they need not just in people, but equipment and support," Rumsfeld said.

Army Gen. John Abizaid, commander of U.S. Central Command, and Army Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez, commander of Combined Joint Task Force 7 in Iraq, have the ultimate responsibility for making recommendations to the civilian leaders of the military. "They are the ones whose advice we follow on these things," the secretary said.

About 135,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq, due to the troop rotation occurring now. The plan was for some overlap "so that you would end up transferring the knowledge and the situational awareness that's so important," Rumsfeld said.

Commanders are using the excess forces created by the overlap, Rumsfeld said.

"They will decide what they need, and they will get what they need," he said. "At the present time they've announced no change in their plans. But they could make such a request at any time, and needless to say … we've asked them periodically if they feel they have the capabilities they need, and that's something that they review on a fairly continuous basis."

Biography:
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld
NATO Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer
Gen. John Abizaid
Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez

Related Sites:
North Atlantic Treaty Organization
Allied Command Transformation
U.S. Central Command
Combined Joint Task Force 7

Related Articles:
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Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said in Norfolk, Va., today.

Rummy was here? And I missed him? Drat!

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April 6, 2004 – U.S. forces have been conducting raids in Fallujah and have captured a number of high-value targets, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said in Norfolk, Va., today...

"(U.S. forces) have captured a number of people over the past 36 hours," Rumsfeld said. "The city is isolated. A number of people have resisted and been killed. And it will be a methodical effort to find the individuals who were involved."

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FoxNews:

 

Defense Officials now say - at least 11 Marines have been KIA, and 20 wounded in Ramadi.

 

Estimated 70 enemies attacked the Governor's palace, the US base there, with small arms, RPGs and mortars.

 

More than 20 Iraqis (enemies (?))  killed in the fighting ~ and many more captured by our troops.

 

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  ~ Eternal Father, grant, we pray,
To all Marines, both night and day,
The courage, honor, strength, and skill
Their land to serve, thy law fulfill;
Be thou the shield forevermore
From every peril to the Corps.
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Fox News banner now saying 12 Marines have been killed in the fighting in Ramadi.

No mention of the number of enemies captured and killed by our troops.

FoxNews, our number one mainstream ally, continues to play enemy pics, repeat enemy demands.

Ignore the press, troops.

We know what's at stake, and who's in charge.

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Iraq ~ Fallujah, Day 2:

 

8 Four Marines, Three Soldiers Killed in Iraq ~ CJTF7 security recap ~ DoD |  4/06/04

 

8 Three Task Force 1st Armored Division Soldiers Killed During Separate Incidents ~  CJTF-7 | 4/06/04

8 Twelve Detained in Raid ~  CJTF-7 |  4/06/04

8 Pendleton Marines cordon Fallujah ~  Marine Link | 4/06/04 | Gunnery Sgt. Mark Oliva

8 Defend America Photo Essay ~ Operation Vigilant Resolve ~ 4/06/04

8 Coalition soldiers train Iraqi Armed Forces to join fight ~ Army News Service | 4/05/04 | Spc. Aaron Ritter

8 US Offensive in Fallujah intensifies ~  various | 4/06/04

8 Marines Battle Enemy Fighters in Fallujah ~  "ENEMY" - from WP! ~ Washington Post | 4/06/04 | Pamela Constable

8 Bush Vows to Arrest Iraq Cleric to Quell Violence ~ Reuters | 4/06/04 | Jeremy Pelofsky, Michael Georgy

8 A Soldier Assures Us: Our Progress Is Amazing ~ Houston Chronicle | 4/05/04 | Joe Roche

8 Private Guards Repel Attack on US Headquarters ~ Blackwater Security, we will not forget your sacrifices, either ~ Washington Post | 4/06/04 | Dana Priest

8 A Marked Difference: Most Shiite Arabs Oppose Attacks; Islamic State Is Not Preferred ~ ABCNEWS | 4/05/04 | Gary Langer

[Cannoneer No. 4]

It's been said that it is impolite to correct an enemy when he is making a tremendous mistake. It's a truism in war that everyone makes mistakes, but that generally the side which makes the fewest mistakes will be the victor.

One could easily come to the conclusion that the situation in Iraq has gone into the toilet in the last two weeks. But there's definitely a silver lining in the dark cloud. Our enemies are making a tremendous blunder, and have given CENTCOM a priceless gift.

Our primary goal in Iraq is to establish a multi-ethnic tolerant liberal democracy, one which supports free expression. This is quite radical; there's never been anything like that before in an Arabic-speaking nation. And there's a natural tendency for those living in Iraq to wonder whether we're serious or hypocritical. After all, everyone believes in free speech when that speech agrees with them. Even under Saddam, anyone was free to praise him anytime they wanted.

The real test was whether we'd tolerate speech critical of us, and so far we have. Which is in the long run good. But it also meant we had to leave hands-off a lot of people in Iraq which we knew represented a terrible threat in the long run.

If we'd crushed them just for speaking against us, we would have been revealed as hypocrites, and the people of Iraq would not have come to support the process. By leaving them alone, they represented a danger but our tolerance also convinced other Iraqis we really meant what we said, and ultimately that was more important.

Now, however, we now have been given the opportunity to take the worst of them out without damaging broader Iraqi confidence in our commitment to freedom. We have proved that we will tolerate peaceful dissent, but we never promised we'd tolerate armed rebellion.

In Falluja there was a horrible attack against a truck convoy which killed 4 American security guards and led to the public desecration of their corpses. Apparently those who planned the attack (and who may have encouraged the subsequent riot, and certainly were pleased by how it turned out) hoped that it would cause an immediate military response, because they had set up other ambushes in the Falluja area and hoped to bloody whatever military unit responded.

CENTCOM did not respond rapidly; it took some time and analyzed the situation. I believe that was correct. But if there had been no further development of the situation in Falluja by insurgents there, then when the time finally came that our forces moved in, then for political reasons we would have largely been limited to finding those specifically involved in that attack. Others might have been detained and questioned, but ultimately we would have had to release them.

It would have been politically difficult to do what we really need to do: to find and take out all of the clan-based criminal organizations in that city which have been involved in much of the insurgent activity all over Iraq.

Making that attack in the first place was not really a blunder, except in a "for want of a nail" sense. Had that been the end of it, it would have been a partial victory for the insurgents even if we found and captured the small number of people specifically involved in planning and carrying out that attack.

But they are going to actively resist. They have attempted to turn Falluja into an armed camp and will defend it against the eventual reoccupation by the Marines and by Iraqi troops working with them.

That decision is a blunder of the first order.

The primary goal of guerrilla action is to use control of initiative to select time and place for attacks against an enemy which is much more powerful, and then to fade away and hide. To give the enemy a stand-up fight permits the enemy to use his superior power, and that's the opportunity the insurgents in Falluja are permitting us.

That means there will be a lot of fighting in Falluja, and sadly it means that quite a few Marines will pay with their lives. But it also means that the opposition in Falluja has transformed itself from "political dissident" to "rebel". Now we can kill or capture the lot, root and branch.

The same thing goes for the concurrent uprising amongst the Shiites. This is apparently not broadly supported, and is mainly to Shiites who still hope to establish an Islamic Republic in Iraq similar to the government of Iran.

There's been a power struggle among Shiite leaders. The most prominent leaders all seem to be clerics, but I think that it makes more sense to ignore that and to think of them as politicians. The most influential among them has been Sistani, and I think that he is in favor of establishing a democracy in Iraq, though he doesn't totally agree with all the goals we have for it in terms of liberty and equality and tolerance. And the majority of Shiites also are in favor.

He's been attempting to put himself in the position of speaking on behalf of all Shiites, which is why he deliberately provoked a crisis in January.

Like all centrist politicians he faces challenges from the fringe, and the most important fringe for our purposes has been Moqtada al-Sadr and his supporters. He's been a problem for a long time, because he's one of the most strident voices demanding establishment of an Islamic Republic.

However, for the most part he's been careful about what he's said and how he's acted and has never really crossed the line which would have permitted us to take him out. But he pushed that line, and that placed pressure on Sistani. I believe Sistani felt he had to move towards the position held by al-Sadr publicly. That's part of his motivation for recent denunciations of the constitution.

But now al-Sadr and his supporters have risen in open rebellion. And that means we no longer have to put up with them. It means more hard fighting, and more casualties. The next couple of months will see the worst fighting in Iraq since the invasion. Once it's over, the situation overall will be immeasurably better.

However, in the short run it's going to be painful. The rate of casualties will rise.

And the usual suspects will come out of the woodwork. Opponents of the war will point to these uprisings as proof that the project is a failure and that "Iraqis" (collectively) oppose "the illegal occupation". "Non-aligned" organizations will condemn nearly everything we do as being war crimes, or violations of "international law". The "legitimacy" of the process will be questioned, and second-guessers will say that if we'd only turned it all over to the UN none of this would have happened. Once this new phase of combat opens in earnest, there will be wild predictions of catastrophe. There will be predictions of huge numbers of civilian deaths and hordes of refugees; of destruction, misery, starvation, plague. We will be told that this will cause a broad uprising against us inside Iraq, and that it will anger the "Arab street". We'll be blamed for the next terrorist operation in Spain. News reports will slant everything to make the situation look as bad for us as possible. The word "quagmire" will once again become fashionable.

In other words, it will be just like it was last year in March and April, before and during the invasion. And it will make just about the same difference, i.e. "not a lot" in the long run.

It is not certain that the outcome for us will be positive – nothing in war is ever certain – but it's far more likely than not. And that will not be affected by strident sniping and self-righteous preaching by our opponents.

The most important thing that happened in the last few days is that many of the most dangerous people in Iraq gave us an excuse to destroy them. CENTCOM won't throw this opportunity away.

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Marines with the Camp Pendleton-based 2nd Battalion
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with the Iraqi insurgents on the outskirts of Fallujah

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High-value targets captured!

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Thanks, EMB