Kennewick Man Ruling - Politics Or Science

New Scientist ^ | Jeff Hecht

[Paleo Conservative]

The most puzzling aspect of this whole episode is the behavior of the Corps of Engineers. How does obliterating the site serve anybody's interest?

Sounds like Clinton's finger prints are all over this.

[RightWhale]

The Japanese are descended from the Mongols.

[blam]

Origins of the Mongols

Archaeological evidence places early Stone Age human habitation in the southern Gobi between 100,000 and 200,000 years ago. By the first millennium B.C., bronze-working peoples lived in Mongolia.
With the appearance of iron weapons by the third century B.C., the inhabitants of Mongolia had begun to form tribal alliances and to threaten China. The origins of more modern inhabitants are found among the forest hunters and nomadic tribes of Inner Asia.
They inhabited a great arc of land extending generally from the Korean Peninsula in the east, across the northern tier of China to the Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic and to the Pamir Mountains and Lake Balkash in the west.

During most of recorded history, this has been an area of constant ferment from which emerged numerous migrations and invasions to the southeast (into China), to the southwest (into Transoxiana--modern Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic, Iran, and India), and to the west (across Scythia toward Europe).

By the eighth century B.C., the inhabitants of much of this region evidently were nomadic Indo-European speakers, either Scythians or their kin.
Also scattered throughout the area were many other tribes that were primarily Mongol in their ethnologic characteristics.

[RightWhale]

That's what the man who firebombed the US during the war said. Maybe it's just one of those national mythologies that infected the body politic in those days.

[Chris Talk]

In part, and in part from Ainu-(oid) aborigines in the islands.

[blam]

"That's what the man who firebombed the US during the war said."

He must be the guy who knew to put the balloons into the jet stream before anyone in the west even knew about a jet stream, huh?

[drhogan]

according to one of these articles, the indians may have wiped out the original "native-americans" (from australia).
sounds like genocide to me.

[blam]

"according to one of these articles, the indians may have wiped out the original "native-americans" (from australia). sounds like genocide to me."

I think there still some of the folks living way down on the tip of South America. Humboldt spoke of them in his travels. Two different people living there when he went through. One tribe short and stocky and one tribe tall and lanky.

[RightWhale]

Yes, I know him personally. Met him at Columbia in '62. He said the ancestors of the Japanese are Mongols, and he is also a meteorologist. His job during the war was releasing those special weather balloons with the 72-hour timer into the jet stream.

[blam]

"Yes, I know him personally. Met him at Columbia in '62. He said the ancestors of the Japanese are Mongols, and he is also a meteorologist. His job during the war was releasing those special weather balloons with the 72-hour timer into the jet stream."

Amazing, what a small world. Did he happen to tell you how they knew about the jet stream and, more than that, where they were 'streaming' at any given time.? As I recall, the timers were primitive and simple albeit, very effective.

I wonder what he bases his comment about the Mongols on. The Japanese and Chinese are very sensative about maintaining that their cultures developed without any outside, especially western, influence. I've read that the Japanese have ancient drawings/paintings of Samurai that clearly show their western like features but, these are always locked away....even researchers are prohibited from viewing.

I would be the least suprised if/when the the tomb of the first emperor (Chi'in) of (all) China is opened and a tall red-headed guy is discovered. BTW, it was reported yesterday that a graveyard from the Han dynasty was discovered during work on the Three Gorges Dam.

[RightWhale]

Aiming of the incendiary devices was rough. They intended to set the timberlands of Oregon on fire. His Engrish was pretty good and working in the same office we had plenty of time to talk about stuff. Whether they called it the Jet Stream, the high altitude winds were well-known.

[blam]

"They intended to set the timberlands of Oregon on fire."

Yup, one of the explosive gizmos on one of the balloons was found by a picknicking family and killed most of them.

[drhogan]

you guys know what this means: REPARATIONS!! big time. the indians will have to pay reparations to the australian aborigines out of all those profits from gambling casinos and cigarettes.
plus, the indians will have to legally give up the term "native americans", which will now go to the aborigines. indians will now have to be lumped in with asian americans.

[drhogan]

and those of you in upstate new york who thought the treaty might mean that you had to give your house to an indian--well, now you have to give it to australians.

since my last name is hogan, i'm probably part australian, so you can send me some of that reparation money as a downpayment.

[blam]

"since my last name is hogan, i'm probably part australian, so you can send me some of that reparation money as a downpayment."

Hogan huh? I think the Australian Aboriginies have been looking for you.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

This speculation is getting out of hand.

So who did the stone tablets that Joseph Smith discovered in America?

[blam]

"So who did the stone tablets that Joseph Smith discovered in America?"

Joseph Smith?

I'm reminded of Burrows Cave and something that happened there. Dr Barry Fell was asked to look at a picture of an artifact found in Burrows Cave...he immediately proclaimed it a fake. Everyone was suprised that he could make such a quick, almost off-hand, disposition.

When pressed for more details he explained that the artifact was copied from a mistake he had made in one of his books that wasn't caught before publication. The owners of Burrows Cave won't let the scientists near it.

[southland]

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