Legislator to take new shot on guns

Lawerence Journal World ^ | January 7, 2004 | Scott Rothschild

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Topeka — Gov. Kathleen Sebelius' opposition to a bill allowing Kansans to carry concealed handguns may not matter, according to a northeast Kansas legislator who is pushing for the law.

Rep. Candy Ruff, a Democrat from Leavenworth, said she hoped the legislation would win by such large margins in the Legislature that it would survive a veto by Sebelius. Overturning a veto would require two-thirds votes in the House and Senate.

"My whole take on this is to work to make it veto-proof in order not to involve the governor," Ruff said.

Kansas is one of only a handful of states that doesn't allow its residents to carry concealed guns. Proposals to allow concealed carry were vetoed in 1997 by then-Gov. Bill Graves, and died in the Senate in 1999.

But this is the year for passage, Ruff said.

"It's ridiculous that we don't have this," she said. "Its time has come regardless of who the governor is. A strong majority of Kansas citizens are interested."

Sebelius, a Democrat, has said she would support a bill limited to allowing retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed guns because "they have the special training and the street smarts to deal with it."

But she said she opposed a broader bill because law enforcement officials have told her that it would not reduce crime, and major employers, such as Hallmark Cards, "feel it is a dangerous proposition."

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Ruff dismissed Sebelius' comments, saying the record was clear from other states that concealed-carry laws have not jeopardized safety in the workplace.

Ruff, who is married to a Leavenworth police officer, said most law enforcement officials supported allowing law-abiding citizens to have concealed weapons.

She said safeguards would be built into the bill that would require Kansans to receive training and undergo background checks before they could be eligible for a gunholders' permit.

Ruff said she had no desire to carry a weapon and was not a member of the NRA. She said her support was based on what she said was the constitutional right to carry a gun and protect oneself.

The bill hasn't been drafted yet, Ruff said, but it would be similar to one proposed in 1999. Under that measure, people eligible to receive a concealed-carry permit would have to be 21 or older, complete a safety and training course and have no history of mental illness or substance abuse in the previous five years. In addition, applicants could not have any felony convictions or be under a court restraining order

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[Crazieman]

I don't think the 2/3 vote will pass on Sebelius' veto. We couldn't even get it passed with Bill Graves as governor. (He vetoed as well)

[basil]

It is always surprising to be reminded that Kansas has no conceal and carry. Kansans seem to be awfully quiet about it, though--so maybe it's just not a big issue with them.

Even though this lady is a democrat, she seems to have a good grasp of the Second Amendment. I wish her well.

[teeman8r]

the second amendment says nothing about having to complete a safety and training course... it does say that the right to carry shall not be infringed....

my only problem with these right to carry democrats is that they will infringe by denying people completion of the course....

jmt teeman

[Monty22]

"Sebelius, a Democrat, has said she would support a bill limited to allowing retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed guns because "they have the special training and the street smarts to deal with it.""

Translation: Cops are ubermensch

[Shooter 2.5]

But this is the year for passage, Ruff said.

This is an election year.

The fun thing about this is the dems still haven't noticed the correlation behind supporting gun control and losing elections.

[Shooter 2.5]

Jdege's map.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Correction: Missouri's still out.

[B4Ranch]

"Ruff said she had no desire to carry a weapon and was not a member of the NRA. She said her support was based on what she said was the constitutional right to carry a gun and protect oneself."

I wonder when the Supreme court is going to start thinking like Ruff.

[Shooter 2.5]

Hopefully, not after the 22ND of this month.

[ChefKeith]

Once again I just don't understand why these politicians can't grasp the meaning and context of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I had lost track of where we are in the Show Me.

[MichaelDammit]

But she said she opposed a broader bill because law enforcement officials have told her that it would not reduce crime, and major employers, such as Hallmark Cards, "feel it is a dangerous proposition."

Just Damn....

[Shooter 2.5]

I can't wait for some dem anti-gun nitwit to say that Dodge City will turn into Dodge City.

[Dan from Michigan]

From a DEMOCRAT? Must be one of the rare Dingell ones still out there.

[Travis McGee]

I LOVE that map! (But not being stuck in Kali.)

[Shooter 2.5]

When Jeff[jdege] first made the moving GIF map, I used to stare at it for minutes at a time. There were so many changes made in the last 19 years. I remember when Florida enacted their law and I lived in Tennessee at the time. The CCW laws seem to stop the handgun bans that were popular during the 1980's.

[Travis McGee]

I lived in FL in the 80s and left just in time to miss the CCW! Now I live in Kali, go figure!