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Nellie Connally Disputes Warren Commission
NewsMax.com ^ | 11/25/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 11/24/2003 11:56:47 PM PST by kattracks

For all the coverage generated by the 40th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination this past weekend, the media managed to miss the only genuine news to emerge from the commemoration.

Nellie Connally, wife of former Texas Gov. John Connally and the only person still alive who rode in the presidential death limousine, publicly disputed for the first time the Warren Commission's "magic bullet" theory, a scenario absolutely essential to its finding that Lee Harvey Oswald was Kennedy's lone assassin.

A year after the assassination the Commission concluded that Kennedy and Gov. Connally were both wounded by the first shot fired by Oswald from the Texas School Book Depository. A second shot missed completely. A third shot slammed into Kennedy's head and splattered his brains throughout the car.

But Mrs. Connally told CNN's Larry King that Kennedy and her husband couldn't have been struck by the same bullet, because she watched her husband react over a period of two seconds after the first shot struck the president.

"John [Connally] sitting right in front of him knew it was a shot," the former Texas first lady said. "He's a hunter and a shooter, you know. . . ."

Mrs. Connally continued:

"So he turned quick to his right and he couldn't see [Kennedy] because he was directly in front of him. And he said, 'No, no, no' and turned to his left. . . . Now this is a second or two. Then, as he whirled back, the second shot hit John . . ."

When pressed about the single bullet theory adopted by the Warren Commission, Mrs. Connally told King, "Do you think a bullet that went through the president's neck can hang there in air between the two seats while John turned to the right, turned to the left and came back?

"That's what I asked the Warren Commission," she explained. "I said, 'I don't believe a bullet could do that. That bullet -- the same bullet did not hit both of them.'"



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KEYWORDS: conspiracy; jfk; nellieconnally; warrencommission
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To: Shooter 2.5
You would still hear 4 shots even if a silencer was used?

What if someone had a high powered rifle with a silencer and was a greater distance away? I have not researched this much, don't know a tremendous amount about rifles and/or silencers, and have never been to, or really looked at the site of the assassination, so am just throwing out random thoughts. but, it seems to me, if you set up Oswald as a patsy, knowing everyone would hear his shots and therefore look to where he was shooting from, someone else with a high-powered sniper rifle, w/ silencer, could fire from somewhere else w/o being noticed. And, in the confusion, it would not surprise me if such a shot went unnoticed by everyone, including those in the limo.
61 posted on 11/25/2003 11:34:48 AM PST by brownie
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To: brownie
Silencers are now called suppressors for a very good reason. They are still loud enough to hear, especially across a sidewalk. There is also the sonic boom from the 2000 Feet a Second bullet. I don't think you understand how tiny the fence area is.

Oswald was seen by more than one person actually shooting from the window. All of the other employees checked into work except him. That's how they had his description. He wasn't watching the parade because no one remembered seeing him there.

None of the trajectories match a different location.
62 posted on 11/25/2003 11:45:03 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Deuce
1. Kennedy hit in neck with evidence Connolly not hit for several frames;
2. Kennedy hit in head after Conolly alreadyt hit. The above two points combined with the missed shot = 4 (minimum) shots.

Check out The Single Bullet Strikes John Connally and When is JFK Seen Reacting to the Single Bullet? Too Late, Too Early, or Just Right?. I'd be interested in any critique you might have.

63 posted on 11/25/2003 12:13:11 PM PST by Tares
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To: Darnright
Judith Baker is definitely a weirdo and a crackpot (if not crack smoker) but the Magic Bullet theory is totally outrageous.
64 posted on 11/25/2003 12:24:24 PM PST by BSunday (I'm not the bad guy)
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To: veronica
There is ZERO evidence of multiple shooters.

You mean besides the fact that shots came from at least two different places?

65 posted on 11/25/2003 12:28:39 PM PST by BSunday (I'm not the bad guy)
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To: Big Midget; Lloyd227; Deuce
From reading all the posts on this thread, it is obvious we all have our own opinions on what happened that day. I believe the so called magic bullet theory. So call me a loony. I think you all are loony. So that is that. But there is alot of "new evidence" out there that points to the magic bullet theory as being the most plausible explanation for what happened, with that one bullet. Some of the data referenced in this thread is old and been debunked. So why even argue with anyone who will not ever believe anything but a "conspiracy" occurred that day. It`s not worth my time. But if any of you have any "new evidence" to show me, I am glad to take a look.
66 posted on 11/25/2003 12:32:12 PM PST by Peace will be here soon
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To: Deuce
Once again, ZERO evidence of additional shooters. Show me a bullet fired by any gun other than Oswald's. (Let me guess, the CIA, FBI, Mafia, Cubans and Russians found them and are hiding them.)

Eyewitnesses are notoriously wrong, however when taken in total the vast majority of witnesses describe 3 shots.

There is NO acoustic evidence. The recording in question was made about a minute after the shooting, and shows NO evidence of gunfire.

The Zapruder film shows people reacting to the first shot (miss, struck the curb), the second shot which hits both Kennedy and Connally, and of course the third shot to the President's head.

The only Parkland Doctor testimony that is questionable is that the throat wound was described as an entrance wound. This was done by someone who had experience with civilian gunshot wounds. This small wound however is consistent with and exit wound from a military round.

As far as the head wound and "back and to the left" movement of the president, this is entirely consistent with a high velocity injury to the right-posterior head, and blow-out of bone and tissue forward and to the right.

One more time. Show me another bullet.

67 posted on 11/25/2003 12:54:54 PM PST by The Good Doctor
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To: Deuce
Deuce, what do you know about the Winnipeg Airport conversation, in which a guy said he overheard Ferrie talking with two others about the assassination?
68 posted on 11/25/2003 1:12:48 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Peace will be here soon
"The "magic bullet" theory is very plausible, and the only one that has not been completely debunked.
"

You obviously haven't so much as looked at the theory. What they said happened is completely impossible. Expert after expert has said so.
69 posted on 11/25/2003 1:19:50 PM PST by DeathAngel
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To: kattracks
Connally always claimed that he couldn't have been hit by the same bullet that hit Kennedy, because he turned around to see what was happening after Kennedy was hit. This is what his wife claims now. But as author Gerald Posner has pointed out, the Zapruder film shows the bullet moving Connally's suit lapel.

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70 posted on 11/25/2003 1:33:41 PM PST by wideminded
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To: DeathAngel
Not true. Conspiracy theorist/bookseller after conspiracy theorist/bookseller has said so. In fact, the "pristine" bullet is not at all pristine. It is significantly deformed, compressed side-to-side as if it hit something hard (i.e. bone) while rotating. This hypothesis is no longer theoretical, but has been demonstrated experimentally.
71 posted on 11/25/2003 1:35:21 PM PST by The Good Doctor
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To: kattracks
A year after the assassination the Commission concluded that Kennedy and Gov. Connally were both wounded by the first shot fired by Oswald from the Texas School Book Depository. A second shot missed completely.

I thought it was the other way around - that Oswald's first shot missed completely, and the second one hit Kennedy in the back and went out the front of his neck.

72 posted on 11/25/2003 1:36:41 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Big Midget
The entry wound on JFK's back was about three inches below the shoulder, but the exit wound was in his throat, almost six inches higher.

The ABC special I saw had it exactly the opposite - that the entrance wound of the second bullet was higher than the exit wound.

And didn't the first bullet miss, not the second?

73 posted on 11/25/2003 1:40:12 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Tares
The film in question evidences three hits within the car. That's all. There was a bullet that missed and hit the curb near the overpass. That makes four shots ... unless you believe a supersonic projectile can change directions while in the air to such a degree that it can turn from level or slightly upward in direction, to downward, with enough force to still make the wounds on Connolly.

The WC was instructed to do whatever it took to divert suspicion from Castro. Conflicting stories and irrational assertions by people in authority do a nice job of that ... and people still grasp at the fabricated lies in order to avoid the truths of the corruption which brought about Kennedy's assassination.

74 posted on 11/25/2003 1:41:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Peace will be here soon
My opinion on this entire matter boils down to this:
For me to believe that there was one and only one assassin and it was Oswald requires me to believe that those who would benefit most from Kennedy being dead (LBJ, the CIA, the FBI, and the mafia) are all telling me the truth. And that our government, even when it wants to, is unable to keep an inquisitive public from the truth when it comes to the operations of the above mentioned agencies.

There is more than enough evidence to conclude that Kennedy was the victim of more than one, lone, communist gunman. Not least of which is the fact that he was assassinated before he could defend himself.

75 posted on 11/25/2003 1:47:54 PM PST by Snardius
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To: DustyMoment
These aspects aside, the reaction of Kennedy's head to the "third" bullet that blew the back of his head off strongly suggests that the shot came from the front.

Yeah, I have never bought this "jet propulsion" principle some are trying to sell.

76 posted on 11/25/2003 1:49:52 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: kattracks
"John [Connally] sitting right in front of him

WHOA Nellie ... GO BACK and look at those pictures - he WASN'T sitting 'right in front of him', Connally was inboard (to the left) of JFK (THIS can be seen on numerous photographs).

Source: The Single Bullet Theory

Note: Kennedy has his ARM on the door whereas Connally does not.

77 posted on 11/25/2003 1:51:44 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Veritas_est
I have NEVER believed the Warren Commission report

.. much less READ IT I'll bet ...

GOOD JOB!

78 posted on 11/25/2003 1:55:00 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: DeathAngel
Wrong.
79 posted on 11/25/2003 1:56:14 PM PST by Peace will be here soon
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To: veronica
And again, Oswald's own brother, who of all people on earth has a reason to try and find evidence to exonerate his brother, has found none.

"Multiple shooters" doesn't necessarily mean that Oswald was innocent. It just means that there may have been more than one assassin. The ABC special may it sound as if there are two possibilities and two only: Oswald was guilty or innocent. But that isn't true.

80 posted on 11/25/2003 1:56:41 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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