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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 11-13
Various | November 10, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/10/2003 8:35:02 PM PST by sweetliberty

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To: sweetliberty
Thanks again for all you do!
61 posted on 11/11/2003 8:58:58 AM PST by countrydummy
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To: T'wit
"the unwashed hosiery clause"


ROFLOL!!
62 posted on 11/11/2003 9:06:39 AM PST by windchime
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To: EternalVigilance
I don't want to overtake the Terri thread with this--but it is another very important front in the same war.

Without a doubt!

63 posted on 11/11/2003 9:09:43 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: Snykerz
Schiavo case goes back to appeals court:

[SOUTH PINELLAS Edition]

J. NEALY-BROWN. St. Petersburg Times. St. Petersburg, Fla.: May 10, 2001. pg. 3.B

The 2nd District Court of Appeal, which ruled Terri Schiavo's feeding be stopped, will hear new arguments June 25.

The debate about whether Terri Schiavo should be kept alive on a feeding tube will return to the same court that ruled recently the feeding should stop.

The 2nd District Court of Appeal on Wednesday said it would hear arguments from attorneys on both sides of the case on June 25.

The court had ruled last month that the feeding could stop, a decision applauded by Terri's husband, Michael Schiavo, who has maintained that his wife would not want to kept alive in such a way.

Days later, Cyndi Shook, a former girlfriend of Michael Schiavo, said on a radio talk show that Schiavo told her in 1992 he didn't know about his wife's wishes.

Terri Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, then returned to a lower court and were granted their request to resume her feeding.

The appeal of that decision is what the appeals court will hear next month.

George Felos, Michael Schiavo's attorney, wants the appellate court to stand by its original ruling, especially since Shook said nothing different from what Schiavo testified during the trial. He said the couple had not talked about anything specific.

Shook has maintained that her remarks have been taken out of context and that she never heard Michael Schiavo say anything about how his wife would want to be cared for in the event of a coma.

As the appeals court agreed to hear more arguments in the Schiavo case, a second woman came forward to claim that Michael Schiavo never knew what his wife wanted and that he was interested only in money.

"All I can do is tell you the truth," Trudy Capone said in an affidavit filed Wednesday in Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Court. "But again I will tell you Michael had no idea what Terri wanted. If it's one thing I do know it is that he never knew."

Capone said Michael Schiavo frequently confided in her about Mrs. Schiavo and often said he did not know what to do with her.

If Schiavo said anything different, he was a liar, Capone told an investigator working for the Schindlers' attorneys.

Michael Schiavo previously testified that his wife told him before her 1990 heart attack that she would not want to be kept on life support if something were to happen to her. Terri Schiavo collapsed in her St. Petersburg home from a lack of potassium and is now in a persistent vegetative state.

The Schiavos won a malpractice lawsuit, $300,000 of which went to Michael Schiavo and $700,000 to his wife.

Soon after the money was awarded, Capone, 46, of Belleair, said that Michael Schiavo bought a new car and offered to buy her expensive gifts.

"As soon as he received his settlement, he went out and purchased a gold Acura (I think that was the make) and drove it to my workplace just to show it to me. All he could talk about was his new car," said Capone, a nurse who denies the two ever had a romantic relationship.

Felos, Schiavo's attorney, questioned Capone's statements.

As to whether Michael Schiavo knew what his wife might have wanted, he said Capone's statements lacked any context.

"What were they talking about? Whether Terri wanted to be cremated or buried? Is that what they were talking about? Are they talking about a nursing home or being cared for at home? Is that what they were talking about?" Felos said during a telephone interview.

On Schiavo's purchase of a new car, Felos responded: "Does that make him a criminal?"

Felos also emphatically denied Capone's claims that Schiavo and his fiancee are expecting their second child. "I don't know what fantasy that is," he said. "He doesn't have any children."

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/

64 posted on 11/11/2003 9:15:56 AM PST by Krodg
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To: FL_engineer
Very interesting interview by the girlfriend.

How did I miss that post - Thanks for the re-post FE!

65 posted on 11/11/2003 9:22:56 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: cyn
..."as soon as he got near the door, her head was already looking at the door, but that she would recognize his voice... ...and she would start crying when he got ready to leave."

The gospel, according to Mikey.

Yeah, sure.

66 posted on 11/11/2003 9:27:59 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; FL_engineer
> Why would he do it if he didn't truely love her?

Is that not one of the all-time stupidest questions? He hates her, he wants her out of the way, he wants her money (all true) -- those are motives for murder. Not love.

If George can't get that straight, he belongs in the Camp for the Incurably Froot-Loopy.

67 posted on 11/11/2003 9:28:12 AM PST by T'wit
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To: sweetliberty; Budge; FL_engineer
FYI (I don't know if you've seen this):

PETITION TO REMOVE GUARDIAN AND TO APPOINT SUCCESSOR GUARDIAN

68 posted on 11/11/2003 9:35:42 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Budge
No, I think that was true, Budge. There is at least one photo of them together at the time, and she's looking at him almost radiantly. He was wonderful to her -- until he got the money. (It is likely, and the Schindlers now believe, that he was staying close and intensely watchful to see if she could learn to talk -- and potentially finger him for trying to strangle her.)

The thing is, she is no longer very responsive because she has been isolated and abused in the ten years since. She's been harmed by his mistreatment. Terri today is Michael's victim even if she wasn't in 1990 (but she was).

69 posted on 11/11/2003 9:35:59 AM PST by T'wit
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To: Budge
...and she would start crying when he got ready to leave."

Perhaps she was crying because of the way he treated her during the visit.

70 posted on 11/11/2003 9:45:26 AM PST by Krodg
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To: FatherOfLiberty
On a similar note and directed at Felos the soon to be ____ (hint rhymes with melon):

Terri Schiavo has more to lose than Bush does if the stay remains in place, Felos said. It is a matter of her rights being ``violated on a daily basis'' versus Bush ``having to defend the case on its merits even though the sheriff did not knock on his door and serve him with a summons.''

This story can be found at:
http://news.tbo.com/news/MGAX2JBHVMD.html

Felos: What about Terri's other 14 retained rights in 744.3215(1) ? Let's talk about those, BIG MOUTH !!!!

and in regards to the people who say Terri has no brain or cortex.. the brain can regenerate and also remaps so here you are:

Please look to Dr. Maxfield's testimony refuting the earlier "no brain" testimony of Dr. Barnhill.

Dr. Maxfield trained at Baylor and Johns Hopkins. Worked at Hopkins and Oschner Foundation and head of radiology dept at LSU. 49 years as a radiologist. "Invented medicine," as we say.

He testified that Terri has brain tissue in all major structures of her brain. Says the most severe damage is in her occipital region and probably her eyesight is affected. Says it is possible for her to retain memories, as she still has tissue in that part of her brain.

And finally....he detects a change FOR THE BETTER between her 96 and 02 CT scans, which he attributes to the body's natural tendency to heal itself.

Thus sayeth Dr. Maxfield, the most qualified of all 6 docs to read those scans.

anon..

Now this is what I sent to Jeb, his lawyers and other people and I'm going to be sending to more:

----- Original Message -----
From: "pc93" pc93@bellsouth.net
To: jeb@myflorida.com; ;
;
; "melissa b geralds"
;
; ;
;
; "pc93" ;
; ; "Fay Franklin"
; Larry.King.Live3@turner.com; ontherecord@foxnews.com; fernanr@eog.state.fl.us;
raquel.rodriguez@myflorida.com>
calamac@eog.state.fl.us;
bob.marshall@trincomm.org;
speakerbyrd@myfloridahouse.com;
sebesta.jim.web@flsenate.gov; lee.tom.web@flsenate.gov;
drawdy.ann.so9@flsenate.gov; me@glennbeck.com;
; hannity@foxnews.com; rush@eibnet.com; foxfeedback@foxnews.com; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ;

Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:18 PM Subject: Terri deserves even more than 10 years of rehab. It's her inherent right. Fw: [helpterri] Responding to 4 hour tape
All,

Terri should be given the amount of time and even more that she was denied rehab. 10 years of intensive rehab. How's that for fair? Terri deserves nothing less. I will be sending this to many fax machines in Washington, D.C. Terri is being denied rehabilitation right now and that is against the ADA and even the State of Florida laws. Now who is going to continue to step up for Terri and demand that she gets the rehabilitation pronto? Who is going to yank Michael/Felos and Co. forever out of Terri's life? This needs to have been done yesterday. Wolfson has connections to the Hospice of Suncoast Florida and you are going to tell me that he is supposed to be independent? Demers is in on this. The 2nd DCA opinions were written by an insurance adjuster with an (need I say obvious) interest in seeing Terri dead. It's time to save Terri from the bloody muck heap.

Sincerely,

Juan Schoch

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm

----- Original Message -----

From: "Pamela"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: [helpterri] Responding to 4 hour tape

I would simply say from common sense that everyone has to train their minds to do things, especially after an accident. Those who have severe lege injuries and learn to walk again don't learn to walk by laying idle, they learn to walk by continued repetitive actions on a daily basis. Those people who are learning to walk again have to think about each step they take. Even myself, having a severe disability in my leg, I have to think and concentrate on each step. If my mind gets tired, I can fall very easily.

In Terri's case, she has to think pretty hard to make her mind figure out what is being asked of her, then her mind has to consciously figure out how to transfer the request into action. Terri, open your eyes. "Ok, what does open eyes mean? Where are my eyes? How do I send a signal to my eyes. Ohh, there, that must be my eyes, I'll see if it is....ooohhh, that is my eyes, look, I can move my eyebrows too! Wow, that was mentally exhausting." What I'm saying is that Terri has been allowed to lay in bed like a vegitable, her mind hasn't been stimulated as it should have been, her muscles have not been stimulated as they should have been. Mike denied her all of that by not letting her have pictures and things in her room, not letting the nurses stimulate her, no range of motion, not speech therapy, etc. If she is slow to respond or can't respond at times, it is because that is what Mike made of her by denying her the therapy we all need. If we didn't stimulate our brains on a daily basis, we would soon be covered in dust.

The bottom line, Terri's condition has deteriorated because Mike has neglected his dutis to assure propper care and rehabilitation. We admit, Terri is slow to respond and may not respond at times. Just like an infant you are trying to teach to say Mommy, somedays something like the word may come out and then you can go for days, weeks months before ever hearing it again. We work with our children daily, by teaching a word we repeart it over and over on a daily basis as we talk to our children. Terri needs this same kind of repitition in order to be able to learn and teach her mind again. Mike has allowed Terri's mind to go dormant....lets give Terri treatment for 3 months and aggressive therapy and then retape her for 4 hours. That's fair enough, she has gone for 10 years without this and this is the result, so let's do a study here, let's give her just 3 months of attensive therapy and tape again for 4 hours and see if we have a difference. Doesn't Terri deserve just 3 more months to prove she is there? It's been 13 years, what harm is 3 more months? To deny Terri that oppertunity it to admit that you are afraid that she will make some improvement. We don't do that in which we fear.

71 posted on 11/11/2003 9:48:48 AM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: T'wit; Coral Snake; sweetliberty; TheBattman; All
We would like to extend our "Welcome" to the new "Director of Clinical Training and Software Implementation" for Hospice of the Florida Suncoast, Cindy Jacquemin. Cindy was a "Clinical Software Trainer" for Suncoast Solutions.

T'wit - Didn't WJB CLinton have something to do with a scandal with Software Soultions? Perhaps when he as the Governor of Arkansas?

CS - thank you for this post!

72 posted on 11/11/2003 9:51:54 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: Krodg
Felos also emphatically denied Capone's claims that Schiavo and his fiancee are expecting their second child. "I don't know what fantasy that is," he said. "He doesn't have any children."

Now THAT is interesting!

73 posted on 11/11/2003 10:05:45 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: Budge; sweetliberty
FOR NOW, I AM NOT POSTING THE LINK FROM WHERE I GOT THE INFO BELOW:

Clearwater, FL September 16, 2003: Supporters of the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation have uncovered a possible link to collusion in the legal proceedings involving attorney George Felos (representing Michael Schiavo) and the neurologist Dr. Peter Bambakidis (court appointed, independent, examining physician).

During the 2002 trials, the court ordered that two physicians would be chosen by Michael Schiavo, two would be chosen by Bob and Mary Schindler (Terri Schiavo’s parents) and one would be appointed by the court as an independent examining physician. All five physicians would later give testimony to the condition of Ms. Schiavo. The independent physician, Dr. Peter Bambakidis of Ohio, would testify in favor of Michael Schiavo in that Ms. Schiavo was in a persistent vegetative state and without hope of recovery.

Supporters of the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation have learned that Dr. Bambakidis and attorney George Felos may have had a personal relationship prior to Dr. Bambakidis being assigned to the case on April 24, 2002.

In marketing materials promoting his seminars, Mr. Felos notes that he has served as a Governor for the American Hellenic Education Progressive Association http://www.zimp.org/felosflyer.pdf

Upon research, supporters discovered that the Ohio chapter of the American Hellenic Education Progressive Association was managed by Gust Bambakidis http://www.ahepa.org/chapters/ohio.html

Both Gust and Peter Bambakidis are graduates of Case Western University (Gust: http://www.wright.edu/academics/physics/faculty/index.htm,
Peter: http://www.fairviewhospital.org/education/internal/faculty.php) and are confirmed to be brothers. Both were born in Ohio and live there currently. Additionally, Nicholas Bambakidis (son of Gust and a neurologist) had, for some time, worked with Peter Bambakidis http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:3XGyCu5-zQgJ:mediswww.meds.cwru.edu/public_affairs/medlines/03aug.pdf+nicholas+bambakidis+cleveland+clinic&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

During testimony in 2002, Dr. Peter Bambakidis was asked repeatedly by attorney Patricia Anderson (representing Bob and Mary Schindler) if he had any personal relationship with attorney George Felos (http://www.zimp.org/bam.doc)
Dr. Bambakidis insisted that he did not know of Mr. Felos prior to being appointed by Judge Greer though he could not provide sufficient explanation as to his appointment nor had he ever testified in any similar court case prior to the 2002 trial of Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

The supporters of the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation believe these coincidences to be indication of possible collusion in the case and are calling on state officials to launch a full and thorough investigation. This apparent connection raises many questions by the Foundation as to the neutrality and integrity of the proceedings. Supporters have complained that neither state officials nor press have investigated these irregularities. By copy of this release, notice will be given to Governor Jeb Bush, State Attorney Bernie McCabe and Florida’s Attorney General Charlie Crist.

74 posted on 11/11/2003 10:12:12 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Budge; Krodg; sweetliberty
Felos also emphatically denied Capone's claims that Schiavo and his fiancee are expecting their second child. "I don't know what fantasy that is," he said. "He doesn't have any children."

Isn't it very interesting!

75 posted on 11/11/2003 10:19:03 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: FL_engineer
Thank you for all your hard work too, FE! Many I knew I had read --- somewhere. Many I missed entirely.
76 posted on 11/11/2003 10:25:28 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: nicmarlo
Wow! Great work, nic!

Can we say bombshell?

77 posted on 11/11/2003 10:27:48 AM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: Budge
Do you know when Michael and Jodi's first child was born?
78 posted on 11/11/2003 10:40:55 AM PST by Krodg
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To: Krodg; All
I think it was in 2002.

I want to tell everyone that Michael Schiavo is a classic textbook abuser.

The stories I read about him watching Terri like a hawk after her "injury" and everything else that happened before and after is like reading a psychology manual about spousal abusers.

He is on the more detrimental side. Sociopathic. He feels no ones pain but his own and has gone on to completely blame others, including Terri, for what is happening to her.

For example his way of thinking (and you all know this to be true) is that if she would just die, he could be happy, blah, blah, blah. He punished the parents by isolating her (classic abuse he would be arrested for if she was walking and talking) from her parents and people who are trying to help her.

This line of what Schiavo has done needs to be addresses by the Schindler attorney in court as well. After all, Schiavo's machinations are all part of trying to make sure she dies.
79 posted on 11/11/2003 10:50:49 AM PST by atruelady
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To: Budge; nicmarlo
Wow! Great work, nic!.... Can we say bombshell?

This is definitely worth looking into. It sounds like there is a good chance this doctor flat out lied when he said he did not have a personal relationship with Felos.

80 posted on 11/11/2003 10:53:01 AM PST by FR_addict
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