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Don't sugarcoat it — Ossoff's loss is a big disappointment, and a bad sign, for Democrats
Vox ^ | June 20, 2017 | Andrew Prokop

Posted on 06/20/2017 11:53:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 06/20/2017 11:53:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Not too surprisingly, the author appears to think that the Georgia results indicate that the Dems should move further left. Napoleon counsels us, “Never interfere with your enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself.”


2 posted on 06/21/2017 12:03:27 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Trump Broke his campaign promise: I’m still not tired of Winning!


3 posted on 06/21/2017 12:10:12 AM PDT by JohnyBoy
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I have yet to see a Vox article where the solution to any problem faced by the Dems is to go Further to the left. As you said, so far they have only destroyed themselves even more.


4 posted on 06/21/2017 12:12:46 AM PDT by matt04
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To: Billthedrill

>Not too surprisingly, the author appears to think that the Georgia results indicate that the Dems should move further left. Napoleon counsels us, “Never interfere with your enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself.”

Indeed. On reedit tonight I was harvesting liberal tears and mining salt and of out of the probably 1000+ comments I read only one had a reasonable suggestion of connecting with the white middle and working class to start winning again. That person got -25 downvotes. Every other comment was rage at Georgia, rationalization about the loss, or calls to go further left.


5 posted on 06/21/2017 12:13:22 AM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One should always “sugarcoat” a big sh*t sandwich. It makes it easier to swallow. Go for it libs!


6 posted on 06/21/2017 12:14:03 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Swamp Strikes Back!)
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When you stand back and look over the landscape...with all the negative Trump-talk, the suggestion of impeachment, lack of fired up GOP-activity in DC....it didn’t matter. The district is color-coated GOP and it stayed that way. In some ways, I think it’s amazing that they were willing to spend up to around 50-million on such a lost cause. I would add....the fact that the guy wasn’t a resident in the district...might have cost him 10,000 votes in the end. I wouldn’t vote for a Republican who wasn’t a resident in the district either.


7 posted on 06/21/2017 12:19:29 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Ossoff’s mistake was starting out honest. He started with the hate Trump, pro-Sanders kind of stuff and then modified his positions when that didn’t work. He got enough people to overlook his initial stances to make a respectable showing.

If Demonrats run in suburban congressional races as Bernie Sanders clones, even in some otherwise liberal places they will lose.

If I were the republicans and I saw this happening I’d be tempted to run some RINO or semi-RINO candidates against several demonrat hard leftist. This is a place where social moderates or conservatives who are willing to (lie and)run as moderates might be preferable. Tie all demonrats to the hard left. If their candidates distance themselves from the hardline the demonrat national committee will cut their funding off. If they run like Bernie they’ll lose.

Example of a lying position: A person that that believes that abortion should only be done to save the live of the mother (Against better than 99% of all abortions) has in the past often ben called pro-life. Run as pro-abortion and make demonrats defend the more gruesome position. There are several positions that could be done this way.

Better yet. File and run as a democrat. win the election and then change parties. This might be the only plan that would work in California

Destroy the demonrats as a party. Then go RINO hunting.


8 posted on 06/21/2017 12:22:15 AM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

INB4 one of the MSM’s blames the loss on the ‘sympathy factor’ from the Scalise shooting.


9 posted on 06/21/2017 12:32:02 AM PDT by Zack Attack
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Better yet. File and run as a democrat. win the election and then change parties. This might be the only plan that would work in California...

The difference between the two parties is that when a Jim Jeffords does that to the Republicans they just whimper, but if you try it on the Dems, they'll kill you, and I mean literally. It's sort of like apostasy is to Muslims, it's a one-way street.

I agree with your assessment, though, about Sanders. Hillary losing the working class was a stunning blow to a party that took the working class vote for granted, and now they're scrambling to get it back. All they have to offer is socialism, and that won't get the job done. If it ever does, we've got problems.

10 posted on 06/21/2017 12:32:11 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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"We're the democrats! The democrat party!!! BLAAAARRRRGGGHHHH!!!"


11 posted on 06/21/2017 12:33:51 AM PDT by Prole
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I like that their idiotic party is splintering into exile. Didn’t Bernie Sanders splinter away from the democrat party to form his own party recently?


12 posted on 06/21/2017 12:35:36 AM PDT by Prole
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To: JohnyBoy
I read only one had a reasonable suggestion of connecting with the white middle and working class to start winning again. That person got -25 downvotes.

Winning back the white blue collar vote is key for them, but they can't do it. By the 2018 elections, President Trump will have a solid record on delivering for the blue collar people, from apprenticeships, to jobs in construction and infrastructure. No democrat could believably promise to deliver more.

Secondly, their base won't let them. (those -25 down votes) Right now, the democrat party is just trying to hold themselves together. They can't even begin to come up with a coherent strategy. The rage they are displaying now is half real, half contrived to keep the base energized and the party from dissolving.

In 2018 they will continue to be in the minority, they will even lose ground, and their rage might overflow into a crack up of the democrat party.

We need to take those rust belt states we won and focus on state elections in order to uproot the democrat party there.

13 posted on 06/21/2017 1:01:15 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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outspent her 5-to-1.

They can’t buy a seat.

And this was one of HUNDREDS of Representatives’ seats.


14 posted on 06/21/2017 1:15:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( Mr. Comey, did you engage in or know of ANY OTHER leaks?)
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Maybe Georgia voters questioned just how inappropriate it was for Californians a continent away to try to buy influence in their local election.


15 posted on 06/21/2017 1:17:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( Mr. Comey, did you engage in or know of ANY OTHER leaks?)
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....liberal grassroots spent accordingly....

The grass roots did not give that child $30M.

16 posted on 06/21/2017 1:25:43 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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I don’t understand why more people don’t vote for the party whose only message is that of a 2 year old toddler having a never ending temper tantrum.


17 posted on 06/21/2017 1:40:19 AM PDT by Newtoidaho (Proud member of Trump's army of online trolls.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Winning back the white blue collar vote is key for them, but they can't do it.

The democratic platform for the blue collar person seems to be fight for $15 a hour and Obamacare. That is not very appealing for someone that was making $25 a hour with benefits.

18 posted on 06/21/2017 1:55:34 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The ‘Rats are still Loosers, bigly....


19 posted on 06/21/2017 2:07:47 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: EVO X

The ‘Rats are about Make America Like Venezuela.


20 posted on 06/21/2017 2:08:54 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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