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Was this the Trump that could win in 2020?
The Politico ^ | March 1, 2017 | Edward-Isaac Dovere, Seung Min Kim, Elana Schor and Heather Caygle

Posted on 03/01/2017 7:32:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Donald Trump cleared a low bar: He read proficiently off a teleprompter, he looked human as he spurred long applause for the widow of the Navy SEAL killed in the raid he ordered, he didn’t get into a shouting match with any Democrats or slip off into a rant about reporters as the enemy of the people.

Or, in the words of House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), who was excited Trump threw him a bone on some details of health care reform: “That was a home run.”

The only Trump who’s proven he can win is the Trump who ran in 2016, defiantly never conforming to the political norms every pundit and experienced strategist insisted he had to. He was raucous and baiting and insulting and aggressive, and the voters put him in the Oval Office for it.

But for all the ways conventional wisdom was proved wrong last year, most still assume the 2020 race that Trump’s already announced and held his first campaign rally for would have to be different. He'd be without the foil of a Hillary Clinton that so many voters either hated or couldn’t get inspired by, with clear benchmarks Trump declared over the course of his campaign for Democrats to hold him to, running as a person who’d have to answer for his record rather than just attack from the peanut gallery.

And yet as much as Democrats want to believe they can beat Trump, want to be bucked up by a Republican Congress that’s so far been unable to pass a single significant bill and the grass-roots energy bursting in their own base, the tentacles of doubt started creeping in as many watched the speech: What if now he’s this guy? What if they’re underestimating him like they did all through the campaign? What if they have to change up the strategy again?

Trump’s solid but substance-light speech came after six weeks of a struggling, sputtering presidency captured in a NBC/Wall Street Journal poll out earlier in the day showing Trump doing decently on being decisive and direct, but underwater on changing Washington, getting things done, dealing with the economy, honesty, knowledge, handling an international crisis and temperament.

And yet, Tuesday night was for the first time actually different from anything Trump’s done before. It was the kind of upbeat outreach speech that many Republicans had hoped he’d deliver at the convention last summer or at his inauguration in January, and that Republicans in Congress will need more of if they’re going to pass his agenda rather than duck and cover every time he opens his mouth or takes out his phone.

“I think he’ll continue to grow at this and do this more often,” said House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.). “I think people looking at home, some may have a different impression watching him tonight and seeing that he’s a president for all Americans.”

It was enough of a success that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) seemed to suggest that he hadn’t before the speech been convinced Trump should have the job but that it had pulled him over the edge.

“Donald Trump did indeed become presidential tonight. And I think we'll see that reflected in a higher approval rating,” McConnell said.

Now the question is whether the speech breaks through. Or whether he’ll be able to hold to it before some riled-up tweetstorm in the next few days or hours. Or if the sense of him is so set in most Americans' minds already. Or if any memory of this version of Trump will seem like another one of those mass hallucinations that seem to have overtaken American politics these days when he does finally release the revised travel ban executive order and order the deportation forces he said were already at work as he stood there in the House chamber.

“Even when he has good moments, he gets in his own way,” one-time Obama strategist David Axelrod said on CNN.

The holes in the speech were gaping, like who exactly is going to pay for that “great, great wall” Trump again promised would run along the Mexican border, and how, or what kind of guidance he might give on that infrastructure plan that was supposed to be his big revolutionary success right out of the gate and instead remains a mystery stuck on a shelf somewhere in the West Wing. Repeal and replace Obamacare, and somehow in Trump’s telling American health care would end up cheaper, better and more widely available under a completely different plan.

That’s not to mention the budget abracadabra Trump promised by implementing those infrastructure and health care plans, massively raising the military budget, creating paid family leave, cutting taxes and managing not to increase the deficit along the way.

But politics is a lot of theater, and there’s nothing more theatrical than a presidential address to a joint session of Congress.

“The thing is, he’s behaved so badly that if he doesn’t behave badly, people think he’s getting better,” said Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), now the deputy chairman of the Democratic National Committee. "He’s not getting better. This was a theatrical performance. That’s all that it was, and nobody should be fooled by it."

The Democratic talking points were apparent: Nice speech, sure, but focus on the actions, not the words.

"This is another one of his speeches where he talks like a populist, but the way he's been governing is totally the opposite. He has been governing from the hard right," Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said on CNN after the speech. "Until his reality catches up with his speeches, he's got big trouble."

“One speech cannot make the man,” said House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.). “And he only had up to go at that point, given how he acted at his last press conference and the inaugural address.”

Democrats were almost daring Trump to follow through on being Mr. Conciliatory, which seems about as far off as his passing promise in the speech to have Americans soon landing on distant planets as part of new space missions.

“The tone doesn’t really matter,” said Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), “if he’s not prepared to turn rhetoric into legislation.”


TOPICS: Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2020; democrats; sotu; trump
They still don't get it.
1 posted on 03/01/2017 7:32:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is it that it takes 3-4 writers to pen a typical liberal screed these days?

(ps...hows the wife, vet?)


2 posted on 03/01/2017 7:37:50 PM PST by digger48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These rabid fools cannot get over Trump’s win in 2016, yet they are foolishly prognosticating four years hence? Pure unadulterated crap, and note how many authors it takes to prove it. What utter fools.


3 posted on 03/01/2017 7:38:15 PM PST by Fungi (Every breath, another five thousand fungal spores enter your body. All five thousand will be named.)
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To: digger48

Better but still can’t see much.


4 posted on 03/01/2017 7:39:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sometimes it takes a two-by-four upside the head a few times till they see the light.


5 posted on 03/01/2017 7:39:49 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of The Great King! Forgive my misspelling when on my tablet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All Trump has to do is make a real attempt to keep his promises and not mess up too badly and he will win.


6 posted on 03/01/2017 7:44:04 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And "they" never will!

That garbage about the speech NOT being substantive, having holes, and whatever else they want to throw out there, is just weird. WHAT STATE OF THE UNION/SPEECH TO BOTH HOUSES, HAVE EVER BEEN FILLED WITH COSTS, DETAILS, ETC.? Obama's sure weren't and neither were any of the many of these speeches I've seen/heard.

7 posted on 03/01/2017 7:51:50 PM PST by nopardons
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That idiot David Frum was hypercritical of it, whereas Van Jones admits it’s the best speech he’s ever heard.


8 posted on 03/01/2017 7:54:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes, I know.

And the Dems are still using that old :"WHO ARE YA GOING TO BELIEVE, ME OR YOUR LYING EYESEARS?" canard. And they still wonder why the President beat Hillary ?

9 posted on 03/01/2017 7:57:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: digger48

Why is it that it takes 3-4 writers to pen a typical liberal screed these days?

Well you gotta have bona fides: Hillary or Bernie lovin, need a trans/bi/homo thingy there, gotta have someone from an ivy league school (or a resident of Africa if they went to school in Switzerland) and someone that can write.


10 posted on 03/01/2017 7:59:15 PM PST by Jolla
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Must everything written about trump be dripping from the first sentence with venom? This obviously works with their “huh huh huh” hyperventilating hyperbole spewing poo flinging audience who think they are so knowledgeable with their $200,000 debt for their lesbian basket weaving satan ululation studies degree while endlessly typing insults and ad hominems from the comfort of their mommies basement.


11 posted on 03/01/2017 8:00:56 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%fe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

12 posted on 03/01/2017 8:08:09 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Politico and the Left are going to need a lot more snark, because they do not currently have much of a bench going into 2020.

Hillary again? Chelsea? Oprah? Michelle O? Biden? Fauxhauntas?


13 posted on 03/01/2017 8:23:06 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh the irony.

It was okay when Obama and crew were running around promising 'if you like your healthcare plan', 'if you like your doctor', 'you will get a $2500 per year savings on premiums'.


14 posted on 03/01/2017 8:28:20 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Politico is still alive?

Wait until budget cuts get submitted and government offices and government contractors start canceling their subscriptions.


15 posted on 03/01/2017 8:29:09 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The lefties who have built up Trump into some imaginary horror figure are certainly going to be shocked when he wins re-election. Staying in their out-of-touch-with-reality echo chamber has really warped their views. They’re just mad now that Trump is showing the American people that their propaganda against him is B.S.


16 posted on 03/01/2017 8:32:47 PM PST by FenwickBabbitt
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To: Hostage

I see it’s Politico and I don’t even bother to read it. Why spend time in the sewer if you don’t have to?


17 posted on 03/01/2017 9:37:07 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They get it.

Took four jugheads to cobble enough intellectual horsepower to put together one article.

Oprah 2020!!!


18 posted on 03/01/2017 10:09:39 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Could?” win. Who will beat him Oprah?


19 posted on 03/02/2017 4:33:29 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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