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It's Official: Donald Trump Wins Michigan; President-Elect Could Fight Recount
Patch ^ | November 28, 2016 | Beth Dalbey

Posted on 11/28/2016 11:48:45 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: WildHighlander57
I think MI’s ballot counters know how many unfilled-in-for-president ballots there are, from their recent certification.

Of course, they know. They know how many ballots were cast in total...and they know what the count was for each presidential candidate. Subtract the counts from the total ballots...and you have the number of ballots which weren't voted for the presidency.

If that number changes significantly...or if the total ballot count changes significantly...the alarm bells will start ringing.

It's hard to cheat at the re-count stage. It's the initial count that can be manipulated.

41 posted on 11/28/2016 2:32:34 PM PST by okie01 ( The MainStream Media: IGNORANfCE ON PARADE)
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To: mrsmith; doug from upland; DarthVader

mrsmith wrote:

“Not a lawyer.
Typically state laws say once there is a certified vote electors are appointed by the state.
There’s now a certified vote in Michigan, for Trump.

So , barring an overturn of today’s certified vote total by a new certified vote total, Trump wins.”

Doug, DV,

Didn’t Stein ask for a recount in MI before MI was certified?


42 posted on 11/28/2016 3:25:10 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: WildHighlander57

Can’t petition for a recount in Mich until the vote has been finalized (certified).

In fact she hasn’t even filed her petition yet. Will in a day or two I assume (has 48 hours).


43 posted on 11/28/2016 3:36:14 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

Certified votes cannot be petitioned.


44 posted on 11/28/2016 5:19:08 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: WildHighlander57

Cannot find that she filed in MI


45 posted on 11/28/2016 5:19:32 PM PST by doug from upland (Hillary, get the hell off the stage!)
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To: DarthVader

Maybe your state has different rules, different terminology.


46 posted on 11/28/2016 5:28:57 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

No they don’t, a certified vote is a certified vote.


47 posted on 11/28/2016 5:35:04 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: DarthVader

Every state has their own voting laws and they differ widely in particulars. That’s a fact you, or anyone, can verify.

And consider that two of the highest-priced Michigan election lawyers were at the hearing today.


48 posted on 11/28/2016 5:41:14 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

It does not matter. Lawyers spin things all the time, Getting a recount on a certified vote is a very tough process if not impossible. The standards is high and Stein’s claims are not based in reality.


49 posted on 11/28/2016 6:02:51 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: mrsmith

Stein’s claims go over into this territory and liberals are not living in reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frivolous_litigation


50 posted on 11/28/2016 6:15:20 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: DarthVader

Suit yourself friend.
168.879 is the applicable Mich law, since the vote for electors for president and vice president is canvassed by the board of state canvassers:
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(yp0bg3c1ljbdiy0j1cvv4lb3))/mileg.aspx?page=GetMCLDocument&objectname=mcl-168-879

Stein has to show she was “aggrieved”, which I think is hard to believe since she would still lose even if there was ten times the “fraud or mistake in the canvass of the votes “ that anyone could possibly imagine!
That’s why the lawyers make the big bucks.


51 posted on 11/28/2016 6:33:09 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: doug from upland; DarthVader; Bulwinkle

doug from upland wrote:

“Cannot find that she filed in MI”

OK many thanks for that info!

Per DV, once a state certifies the votes, it’s tough to challenge/ask for recount :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3499194/posts?page=49#49

So MI looks to be be out of reach of Jill**.

PA needs a lawsuit found in favor of Jill & IIRC she has to prove that shenanigans occurred.

And the two counties Allegheny and Montgomery, talked about here by bulwinkle:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3499138/posts?page=68#68

Went for illary !

**BUT MI gave an estimate for the recount today and they have till close of business tomorrow to come up with the money:

http://elections.wi.gov/node/4448


52 posted on 11/28/2016 6:43:20 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: mrsmith

She is out to lunch like I told and their law reflects the high standard like I said. Her claim of aggrievement is frivolous.


53 posted on 11/28/2016 6:58:04 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: DarthVader

Like the law says, she has 48 hrs to petition.
That’s all I wanted to make clear.


54 posted on 11/28/2016 7:06:58 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

She has 48 hours to petition with a strict burden of proof like I told you. It there is not substantial evidence the petition will be denied. Which I believe it will.


55 posted on 11/28/2016 7:11:43 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: DarthVader

No.
You stated she could not petition and I’m glad you gracefully stand corrected.

Why do I point this out?
Look at post 52. People read what’s we say.
Freepers aren’t perfect, but they’re pretty good.


56 posted on 11/28/2016 7:29:22 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: DarthVader

No.
You stated she could not petition and I’m glad you gracefully stand corrected.

Why do I point this out?
Look at post 52. People read what’s we say.
Freepers aren’t perfect, but they’re pretty good.


57 posted on 11/28/2016 7:32:08 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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