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Accountability for ObamaCare (Evan Bayh & Soupy Sales in Trouble)
Wall Street Journal ^ | October 25, 2016

Posted on 10/26/2016 7:02:02 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

ObamaCare has suddenly been injected back into the 2016 election debate, on the news of the law’s 25%-plus average premium increase for 2017. Even Donald Trump is talking about it. With only two weeks to go, this is a moment for voters to hold accountable the Democrats who imposed this debacle on the country over voter objections.

Next year’s enormous price increases are merely the latest expression of ObamaCare’s underlying problems, and the dysfunction is undermining the health security of Americans who lack employer coverage. A wave of major insurers have quit the exchanges, and those that are left have raised deductibles and copays and restricted choices of doctors and hospitals. The public is witnessing—and the unlucky are experiencing—the collapse of one progressive promise after another.

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TOPICS: Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: evanbayh; obamacare; russfeingold
Evan Bayh and Soupy Sales were both deciding Obamacare votes. Both left the Senate and are now trying to get their seats back so it is really bad news for them about the yuuuuuuge hike in the Obamacare premiums.
1 posted on 10/26/2016 7:02:02 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix

well to be fair who could have seen this coming. do I really need it?


2 posted on 10/26/2016 7:06:22 AM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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There's a lot of Democrat amnesia when it comes to O/Care's notorious
Congressional voter history. Let's remind them allover social media.

MEMORY LANE---As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act:"

QUOTING OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.”

Repeated over and over by every loyal Democrat---- conning Americans into believing they'd also be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

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LOCK-STEPPING DEMOCRAT PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1930-40's ERA EUROPE.

SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): “In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: “We believe — and we stand by this — if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)

SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)

SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like — existing policies — you can keep them. … we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)

THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): “Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve.” (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)

SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.” (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)

SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): “We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.” (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): “So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)

SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): “Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it…”(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)

SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): “For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage…” (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)

SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): “I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change.” (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)

SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): ‘People who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it’ “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.” (“Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired,” National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09)

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): “[I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 10/22/09)

SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): “If you like what you have, you get to keep it” “Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won’t have to change. ‘If you like what you have, you get to keep it,’ he said.” (“Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says,” The Record, 6/19/09)

SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): “[E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it” “The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it.” (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)

SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): “It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it.” (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): “I want people to know, the President’s promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)

SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): “If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it.” (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): “‘If you have coverage you like, you can keep it,’ says Sen. Sanders.” (“Sick And Wrong,” Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)

SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): ‘if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it’ “My understanding … is that … if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. …under every scenario that I’ve seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it.” (Sen. Shaheen, “Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire,” Accessed 11/13/13)

SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): “As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairman’s remark is — is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That’s a strong commitment. It’s clear in the bill … I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That’s the bottom line for me.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)

SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): “‘If you like your coverage, you’ll be able to keep it,’ Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger”. (“Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care,” The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)

SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): “Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won’t. If you like your current plan, you can keep it.” (“What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress,” Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)

SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): “..it honors President Obama’s programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.” (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: "people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn't need to change it."
FRANKEN YOUTUBE SOUND BITE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8I

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Twenty-nine Democrats who voted for it (including onetime lawmaker Landrieu who pocketed a bundle to vote for it) were ousted in the 2014 midterm Democrat Demolition Derby.

3 posted on 10/26/2016 7:08:34 AM PDT by Liz (Experience is a dear teacher, but fools will learn at no other. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: PJ-Comix

So Soupy Sales is trying to get back into the Senate? I knew Democrats voted after they died, but I wasn’t aware that they run for office as well. Matter of fact, I wasn’t aware that Soupy Sales was ever a politician.


4 posted on 10/26/2016 7:09:45 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Liz

I give up. What does Soupy Sales have to do with anything?


5 posted on 10/26/2016 7:11:58 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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"Passage of the ACA is a big effin deal, Mr President."

6 posted on 10/26/2016 7:13:51 AM PDT by Liz (Experience is a dear teacher, but fools will learn at no other. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: sparklite2

I can not believe the MSM stooges are allowing this the light of day. Don’t they know there’s an election to be rigged for the bitch?


7 posted on 10/26/2016 7:15:13 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: sparklite2

I give up. What does Soupy Sales have to do with anything?

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Feingold.


8 posted on 10/26/2016 7:15:43 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon
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To: sparklite2

9 posted on 10/26/2016 7:21:23 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Glenn Beck is one Blood Bucket shy of the Funny Farm)
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To: PJ-Comix

Thanks. I must have missed that meme.


10 posted on 10/26/2016 7:45:00 AM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Ironically, the biggest Dem talking point about the hikes is that it’s OK, because most of the people who use ACA insurance will get subsidies, so they won’t be hurt.

Who cares if the hardworking guy just above the subsidy cutoff is completely screwed? /S


11 posted on 10/26/2016 8:02:51 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: dp0622

No need. We’re well versed in sarcasm here. Usually.


12 posted on 10/26/2016 8:18:53 AM PDT by AFreeBird (BEST. ELECTION. EVER!)
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To: PJ-Comix

family of four making $900-$1000.00 per month, varies, aka less than $12k/year. Three options.
Option 1 is strictly preventative care.
Option 2 is preventative plus some emergency room coverage.
Option 3 is the only one that could truly be considered health insurance. Cost is $451 per pay period which is every two weeks so that’s $902 per month. Almost the full paycheck. Option 3 also has a $13200.00 deductible which is more than a year’s salary. It also requires a %60 co-pay.

Gimme a #(*&$)ing break.

10-12 years ago, I could privately buy GOOD coverage from United for $425/mth and it had a $500.00 deductible.

What a joke.

The above “preventative care” covers;

Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm, one time screening for age 65-75 (aneurysm due to obamacare?)
Alcohol Misuse screening and counseling (alcohol misuse due to obamacare?)
Aspirin use for men 45-79, women 55-79 (heart attack risk due to obamacare?)
Blood pressure screening (high blood pressure due to obamacare?)
Cholesterol screening
Colorectal cancer screening once every 5 years starting at age 50 (just shut up and bend over for obamacare?)
Depression screening (depression due to obamacare?)
Type 2 diabetes screening


13 posted on 10/26/2016 8:19:40 AM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I’ve several friends in that situation. And along with the hikes comes less service, hospital closings, doctors quitting, clinics closing and a artificial shortage of Pain MEDS so GRANNY can’t even get a pain pill for Cancer. There was supposed to be an INPUT time for chronic pain patients, none were notified, now they are forced into privacy intruding Pain Management which doesn’t know how to deal with their incurable diseases nor are all the new hires pain specialist just GP’s, lower than an Internist. And you have to take Pee test every month. Pain meds are 30 day supply no renewal, no faxed in scripts they must be hand delivered to pharmacy. Even Neurotin is going on the list.

You can thank Sen Grasely for sticking his nose into this because some idiots whined about people who OD’d on stolen or scammed pain meds along with booze.

DEA shortage of pain meds
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/4/13166594/dea-opioid-epidemic-manufacturer-2017-substance-


14 posted on 10/26/2016 9:11:27 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: A politician that won't keep his word to Veterans/Military won't keep them to You!)
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