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To: MMaschin

If you ignore polls and look at VOTING-—absentee requests, early voting vs. 2012-—you’ll see that so far this election isn’t close. Trump is crushing it, whether in IA where Ds are 40,000 absentees below 2012 (but right in line with their 8% loss in 2014), in FL where they are down 118,000 absentees and losing 43-36% in requests and much worse in actual returns; in Montgomery CO., OH, where they are significantly down in absentee requests compared to 2012 even after identifying which independents are really stealth Democrats.

In Cuyahoga County, OH, D losses and R gains (again, not even factoring in Is) are 97,000 off 2012-—A Dem simply cannot win OH after losing 1/3 of the voters in the most blue city in the state.

So, no, the polling is bad. It’s bad because the pollsters are using bad samples . . . deliberately.


25 posted on 10/06/2016 9:00:47 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Ohio is in the bag for Trump, anyone telling you its in play is just flat out lying to you.... They have shipped off Bill there on a bus to keep him out of the way since they figured out what he was selling no one was any longer interested in buying.

He’s sort of like Bob Dole in Oct of 96, he knows he’s lost, but getting one last hurrah before the end.


31 posted on 10/06/2016 9:08:02 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: LS

“in FL where they are down 118,000 absentees and losing 43-36% in requests and much worse in actual returns;”

Why do I see some obvious Hillary supporters stating that these republican absentee ballot requests are more than the final 79,000 republican margin in 2012 but that the actual 118,000 spread is actually behind what the pace of what the spread wa

I believe they are gaslighting because there are no source citations but still just checking.


33 posted on 10/06/2016 9:22:58 AM PDT by ctpsb
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To: LS

Pollsters are assuming the electorate will be D +6.

Early ballot requests show the national electorate is likely to be R +2.

That changes the political landscape but Washington is stuck on the notion Hillary commands Obama style levels of support.

Its not true in reality and when Republicans outpace Democratic early voting across swing states you begin to catch a glimpse of the real picture.

None of this is being caught in current polls which is why as in 2014, they most are certainly way off.


53 posted on 10/06/2016 3:26:55 PM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: LS

I think they are deliberately skewing the polls so that when they digitally alter the vote counts, it will be believed.

Also, Daily Mail keeps posting articles leading people to believe Clinton is ahead...such as:

“Clinton leads Trump by six points in survey - as polling average shows she is having strongest week ever”

and

“Clinton camp says they could crush Trump BEFORE Election Day by building up ‘insurmountable lead’ in early vote count in swing states”


57 posted on 10/06/2016 10:05:34 PM PDT by Right-wing Librarian
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