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Texas, you sent cruz to the senate, now it is time for you to vet him.
Jim Buzzell | 7/22/2016 | Jim Buzzell

Posted on 07/22/2016 6:45:19 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine

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To: taxcontrol

Ok. Let’s see your proof. You can’t just say things without backing it up. And obviously, there will be a rebuttal by this woman, to any “proof” you show me.


121 posted on 07/26/2016 6:14:00 PM PDT by ResisTyr ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: taxcontrol

And while you’re coming up with that “proof” I offer you this:
http://northamericanlawcenter.org/ted-cruz-not-legal-u-s-citizen-at-all/#.VscM-HNOkwj


122 posted on 07/26/2016 6:16:38 PM PDT by ResisTyr ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ResisTyr

The HIGHEST law of the US is the US Constitution.

There is no higher legal authority. Not UN laws, not the laws of Canada not the laws of any other nation. If you want to make your point, do it within the confines of the US Constitution. You might want to start with Article 1 Section 8 clause 4 and ask yourself, which branches of government has the specific authority to define ALL the rules with regards to naturalization.


123 posted on 07/27/2016 12:51:03 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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Sure thing, but there is no proof one way or the other. The original video does not offer any proof and neither do I. We both offer our opinions.

First error occurs at about 3:00 into the video. The video states that Congress could pass a law that changes the definition and calls that supposition ridiculous. Yet the fact is, Article 1 Section 8 clause four specifically enumerated Congress with the power to do just that. Congress has unrestricted authority over all rules of naturalization. Under the rules of naturalization Congress gets to define who is and who is not a Citizen. Who needs to be naturalized and who is a citizen at birth, Further, the first acts of Congress, the founders specifically stated that: “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens: provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States”. This clearly shows the founder’s intent to not follow jus soli as justification for NBC status.

Second error occurs when the video attempts to hold Vattel as an authority higher than the Constitution in that she is attempting to ignore the above authority granted to Congress. Further, the very first Congress who had many of the same drafters and signers wrote the very first naturalization act of 1790 which was signed by George Washington. In that act, Congress SPECIFICALLY states that those born outside of the boundaries to US parents are US citizen and are natural born citizens. In other words, the framers of the constitution DID NOT REQUIRE being born on US soil to be born a citizen. So rather than rely on what the framers MAY have had access to, read or considered, it is a much clearer indicator of intent by observing what the framers actually passed into law.

[agreement 5:40] Ramsey said “... as a natural right, belongs to none, but those that have been born of citizens....” And this is the exact state of Sen Cruz. He inherited his citizenship from his mother at the time of his birth. Further when quoting Ramsey, be aware that Ramsey did not require the location or jus soli in his definition. This puts him in direct contradiction to Vattel

Third error is at 6:20 where the speaker states that no act of congress makes the NBC a citizen. This is incorrect. All nations have the organic right as a sovereign nation to define their borders and their citizens. All nations exercise this right via acts of their legislators. The founders knew this and specifically enumerated Congress with the authority over all rules of naturalization. This includes those who are aliens and those who are citizens at birth. Starting in the very first acts of Congress, this authority has been exercised. Those first acts have been repealed and replaced along with subsequent acts till one gets to the current code as expressed in USC Title 8 section 1401 - Nationals and Citizens of United States at birth.

The first general error of this video is the belief that jus sanguinis (right of blood) as the ONLY means of NBC conference. That is NOT the current law. The current law incorporates the 14th amendment which is now part of the Constitution and there is no higher legal authority. And before anyone starts with “the intent of the founders” I will remind you that the founders intent allowed slave owners and denied women the right to vote. Our laws have changed since the founders because the founders specifically allowed means to change the Constitution and laws of this nation.

Fourth error is at 9:30 that Marco Rubio has been naturalized. Rubio was a citizen at birth and has never been naturalized.

Fifth error is at 10:20 is with regards to Sen Cruz’s mother’s citizenship. Sen Cruz’s mother was a US Citizen at the time of Sen Cruz’s birth. This is a known fact.
Sixth error is at 10:25 in the assertion that only the father’s status counts towards inheritance of citizenship or NBC. In the very first naturalization act of 1790, the status of the father only requires prior residence within the US as part of the criteria for NBC. Further, this was met by Sen Cruz’s father though the current law does not require it for citizenship at birth.

Seventh error at 10:40 the assertion that common law exceeds the Constitution. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land. Neither Common Law, nor English common law, nor Roman law, nor dictionary, book, script or written opinion exceeds the Constitution with regards to authority.

Eight error at 11:25 is the assertion that one must renounce citizenship in some other country to be a US citizen. Laws of other nations have no weight on US laws and as such are irrelevant. My citizenship would not change just because some other country asserts that I am a citizen. Some other nation could assert that I am a citizen of that country because of the amount of time that I spent in that country. My status as a citizen and NBC comes from the conditions of my birth and does not come from any other nation’s laws. Again, those laws are irrelevant to US law. The video is representing how they would like the laws of the US TO BE, not how they are. The genius of the founders is that they made a way for those who want to change this to be able to do so. If you don’t like what the 14th amendment says, get enough of your like-minded individuals together to change it. Same with the laws of this nation.


124 posted on 07/27/2016 3:23:42 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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