Posted on 04/10/2016 5:02:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Only a Trump-ite could say that with such colorful language. You become like those you adhere to.
Cruz was neutral during the primary and runoff election. It was only AFTER MCDaniel’s loss that Cruz blasted the party leadership. As NRSC VP said nothing DURING the primary.
You put Cruz in there, and you all are going down in November. Then I suppose you can laugh all you want.
Obviously this is from a Cruz insider. He mentions the Tea Party. They seem to be pro-Cruz. It seems to me that they were challenging the Republican party’s Open Tent, moderate/liberals several years before GOPe became a meme. The Tea Party disserves our respect.
I like both Cruz and Trump, and will support either. I’m think it wrong that there is bad blood between their supporters. In each case, I think their legions of supporters are among the best of Americans.
To me, Cruz has established better credentials as an all-around conservative. Trump has some important, err, Trumps. He loves his country and wants to do well by it. He is anti-Islam. He is anti illegal immigration. This may not distinguish him so much from Cruz, but it puts him WAY ahead of Obama, Hillary, Sanders, Jeb Bush, and John Kasich.
For me a Cruz-Trump or Trump-Cruz ticket seems ideal.
Blind devotion to a sainted leader will do that. And just like their leader, they will blame us for their intellectual shortcomings. Remember “Donald does well with voters who have relatively low information”?
It'll be a rout worse than RINO ROMNEY! Hope you're happy!
I addressed this up thread in post 18. This is not a duplicate.
Isn’t “RedState” run by the guy who is casting about wildly to find a third party candidate to run against Trump?
What states will Cruz win that Romney lost?
Your graciousness outperforms that realities. TRUMP will be NO ONE'S VP!
TRUMP loses nomination with millions more voters, and GOP is going down in November. Whether it be with the Canadian or anyone else>
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If the Demmies run Hillary, he may win them all.
He polls well against Hillary in 47 states.
There are too many factual inaccuracies in the “article” to be taken seriously.
"I'm sitting this one out if Trump loses" Hillary supporting nonsense."
That's not in my post - anywhere.
I think your candidate is viable too and only with massive support from the very cartel he claims he wants to eradicate, and that's a problem for me. I'm not allowed into the rooms where the deals are being made, none of us are, so I can't provide the proof you're looking for.
We all have to read the tea leaves.
But let me ask you this -> Your candidate is deeply in cooperation with precisely the establishment he has claimed is 'The Cartel' -> he's joined it. He's working with Bushes, he co-authored an op-ed in the WSJ supporting TPA, his campaign has been legitimately accused of dirty tricks, his senatorial bid was financed by the belly of the CronyCapitalist beast (and he lied about it,) his wife wrote the book on globalizing the US, essentially dissolving it into a continental entity reminiscent of the book 1984. His debate team couldn't stand him, few people who work with him can stand him. Early videos of him wanting T&A and power. You can say whatever you want about that being kid stuff -> I never would said that, never, ever ever, never.
I can't give you hard evidence, but hard evidence isn't required because he's not on trial - he's trying to convince me to support his candidacy. I've seen enough that my 'that guy is only on HIS OWN side' meter has pinned - and to be honest, it pinned the first time I saw him speak. I wanted to believe differently, and I'd love to be wrong, I'm quiet sure I'm not.
So, what is your answer to list above? Is that not enough to make you wonder, deeply, if there is anything behind Cruz other than a semi-high-IQ trained in the art of debate - trained in the art of taking any side, whether he believes it or not? Why do you trust him? That's what needs something super close to proof, not the criticisms.
Do you doubt Trump is competent enough, loves America enough?
Do you REALLY, in the depths of your heart, fully think Cruz loves America - or does he not really care, but he does really love to debate, and he does really relish power?
Why not give him 8 more years on the political stage, not as president, to mature and also to prove himself to be what he says - so many people have the same reaction as I do - could you be missing something they are not? But if in fact he's honest -> To learn how to persuade people? What makes you think he'll be effective when no one wants to work with him? (Unless of course he sells out to the Cartel - in which case he will appear to be a very good negotiator ... everything will have already been negotiated ... and none of it will be good for us - it will be a power sharing deal between him and the Cartel)
So that's where I come from -> in part my sense is that everyone has already dug their heals in, and that's fine. My support for Trump is rational and I've examined myself and my motives as deeply as I can. I also have some first hand knowledge of the type of guy he is having known someone for a time who lived in his building, was on the Board of Trustees of Trump tower, went to college a year early and finished 2 years early, and was a zealous Ayn Rand lover, something I also am. This one also had the highest moral content of virutally anyone I've ever met (you'd have to, to love Ayn Rand that much -> in terms of integrity and what that means)
Trump's pretty much a known quantity to me - as much as he can be.
Cruz - not much track record, and a hell of a lot of red flags. Trump has been on trial his whole life - been acquitted, albeit with scars - I have some of my own and they don't detract from my integrity. Cruz ... ? ... ? I'll give him this -> he debates well. Not sure that's a plus. He's also the Cartel's last chance, and appears to be changing his stance of getting rid of them to dealing with them. 4 legs good, two legs bad two legs better.
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You are unique.
99.99% of Trump supporters will be happy with Cruz.
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But many trump supporters don't care what Cruz DID to stop the rinos, they just want there new badboy boyfriend. Trump puts on such a good show and promises things like Bernie does and they believe every word, like Bernie supporters. So he has been successful in business. And I think any republican candidate will fix it. What about actually understanding legally how to stop the gay, lesbian, transgender, queer.,...attack on our children being forced into believing evil is good and good is evil. Boys can use girls bathrooms, Christians have to bake wedding cakes for gays....our church and many others have gay transgendered activist coming in and crying it's not fair we won't marry them. We had a cross dresser use the ladies room...These are real life things happening today and trump is really talking about it. The economy needs fixed, but God won't bless us if we put money before our children. Cruz wIll address all these issues and more.
Cruz can win New York? California? Hawaii? Massachusetts?
Really?
So trump lied. He said he had his best lawyers all over it and Cruz is ok legally. Then when Cruz started to win trump attacked him like a politican would. Can’t have it both ways.
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Why vote Canadian?
Vote for the American!!
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>> “Your candidate is deeply in cooperation with precisely the establishment he has claimed is ‘The Cartel’ -> he’s joined it.” <<
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That is a bald-faced lie!
The party has joined Cruz.
They want to win to keep their own seats.
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This (the OP) is how I see it: Trump leads on first ballot but falls 100 delegates or so short of 1237,
then, by the 4th ballot, Cruz wins.
(This assumes no rule changes — and the continuing enforcement of Rule 40’s requirement that any potential nominee have the support of a majority of delegates in 8+ states/ territories. Only Trump and Cruz will satisfy that rule, but it COULD be changed.)
I still think enough Trump supporters will “take their marbles and go home,” and thus elect Hillary, but I think that Trump would lose by even more, along with handing the Senate and perhaps the House to the Dems.
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