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Cruz getting the jump on delegates in Indiana too?
Hot Air ^ | April 9, 2016 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 04/09/2016 5:17:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Most of the focus for the presidential primaries in both parties goes to New York, the next event on the schedule and the second-largest basket of delegates in the sweepstakes. On the GOP side, the polling shows a lopsided contest, with Donald Trump trouncing Ted Cruz and gaining a majority in every survey since the beginning of March. The leftover attention after New York generally falls to California, the biggest prize, and Pennsylvania, where most delegates will be unbound at the convention anyway.

Hardly anyone has paid attention to Indiana, which holds its primary on May 3rd and has 57 Republican delegates up for grabs. Pollsters have done no work in Indiana at all, at least according to the curation at Real Clear Politics. Given its Rust Belt identity and blue-collar composition, Trump and John Kasich should both have some resonance, but Cruz may pre-empt them both if the convention goes to a second ballot. Politico’s Kyle Cheney asserts that Trump is “getting trounced,” at least in the 27 delegates chosen at the caucuses today, and almost certainly in the other 27 chosen by the state Republican committee a week later:

Indiana GOP insiders are working to engineer slates of delegates — three from each of nine congressional districts — that will turn their backs on Trump at a contested convention in July. Another 27 will be elected at a state committee meeting next week.

Indiana’s delegates will be bound to the results of the state’s May 3 primary on the first vote in Cleveland, and Trump is expected to be competitive in that contest. (There is no current public polling of the state, but several GOP leaders suggested he’d be competitive in at least a couple of the state’s nine Congressional districts.) But if Trump fails to clinch the nomination, they’ll be free to vote their conscience — and that means a rapid rejection of Trump. The state’s Republican national committeeman, John Hammond, has vocally called to reject Trump as well.

That would mark just another blow to Trump’s chances, should the convention go to a second ballot as expected. Though he’s won more votes and state primaries than rivals Ted Cruz and John Kasich, Trump has failed spectacularly to win separate delegate selection battles to his better-organized rivals. Though in most cases, he’s lost because of Cruz’s superior organization, Indiana appears to be a break from the norm. Most of the hostility to Trump there is homegrown.

Unclear? The primary is in effect a straw poll of Indiana voters, and delegates will be bound to that outcome on the first ballot no matter who they personally prefer. After that, delegates get to choose their own candidate. That makes delegate election in the caucuses and by committees a crucial part of organizing for victory — a crucial part that the Trump campaign has neglected until now.

And now it’s too late, at least in Indiana. The deadline to file as a candidate for the delegate slots passed on March 15th, Cheney notes, which means that Trump will have to see if he can woo any of the already-registered candidates. On top of that, the process in Indiana requires a hefty fee of $2000, which means that not too many of these will be casual first-timers but serious party activists.

In fact, some of them might be interested in other candidates than Cruz or Kasich, too:

“I am supporting the Draft Mitch Daniels for President at the convention,” said Nick Barbknecht, a candidate for alternate from the state’s 2nd District, who is also the district GOP vice chairman. Dunn and John agreed that they’d support a Daniels candidacy if it emerged.

Er … good luck on that idea. Another governor might have a little more impact on the popular vote, however:

Gov. Mike Pence revealed Friday that he’s been contacted by representatives of the three Republican presidential candidates as a prelude to possible endorsement ahead of Indiana’s May 3 primary election.

Pence so far is remaining mum on whether he favors former Gary casino owner Donald Trump, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, or Ohio Gov. John Kasich for the GOP nomination, but said he may announce his choice in the weeks ahead.

“I haven’t ruled it out,” Pence said.

The first-term Republican, who is running unopposed next month for the GOP gubernatorial nomination, seemed excited that Indiana actually could matter in this year’s presidential primaries for Republicans and Democrats.

“That hasn’t happened too often in my lifetime, and frankly I think it’s going to be great for Hoosiers and it’s going to be even better for these candidates because Hoosiers are people with strong hearts and strong opinions,” Pence said.

All three candidates will lobby heavily for Pence’s endorsement. If Trump doesn’t get it, we’ll see soon enough whether he learned from his Wisconsin debacle, or whether he lashes out at the still-popular Republican governor. Kasich would seem the most likely candidate for Pence’s imprimatur; they’re both governors, both work in Rust Belt electorates with similar challenges, and both served in Congress, although their tenures did not overlap (Kasich left after the 2000 election that put Pence in the House). However, Cruz has more momentum and better organization, and Pence might not want his endorsement to have no impact on the outcome as it might with Kasich — especially since Kasich performed so badly in Wisconsin, another similarly-situated state.

If Cruz can convince Pence to endorse him, then the primary vote may make the second-ballot delegate considerations moot.


TOPICS: Indiana; Campaign News; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: cruz; cruzisobama2; in2016; indiana; repost; tedcruz; trump
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Whatever you say ...time for facts : he has major street cred and I think when he goes to work , it gets done ...I love old schoolers like this ...he reminds of the Wolf in Pulp Ficton , a fixer...we will see


21 posted on 04/09/2016 5:52:41 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (It's Now or Never ...Trump Now More Than Ever ...Defeat the Cruz GOPe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What the hell does age have to do with it? Cruz is in slow motion, looks like he’s going to run out of power any second. Trump is like the Energizer Bunny.


22 posted on 04/09/2016 5:54:40 PM PDT by Kenny (e)
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To: altura

Well if Manafort sucks so bad, why are you all attacking him ? You should just be sitting back and toasting each other at the prospect of Cruz losing to Hellary ...cheers !


23 posted on 04/09/2016 5:55:02 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (It's Now or Never ...Trump Now More Than Ever ...Defeat the Cruz GOPe)
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To: dynoman

“Trump’s new convention manager speaks out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IivP2Q12nnQ

“Paul Manafort, Donald Trump’s new convention manager, says he reports directly to Donald Trump and is confident that Trump will have clinched the GOP’s nomination before the convention.”

“Ted Cruz has seen his better days.””

Funny, I’ve seen this post on nearly every thread I’ve looked at today. Keep pumping yourself up, I guess you need something to hang your hat on...


24 posted on 04/09/2016 6:00:10 PM PDT by lquist1
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To: Kenny

Cruz needs 88% of the remaining delegates and Trump has just brought in a guy that is going to stop that dead in it’s tracks ... even if they steal it from Trump , the majority of Trump voters will not vote for Cruz ...the Cruz folks have got a tiger by the tail here and they are panicking ...so what do they do , they attack an old school true Conservative - Manafort ...they are pathetically unreal


25 posted on 04/09/2016 6:07:17 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (It's Now or Never ...Trump Now More Than Ever ...Defeat the Cruz GOPe)
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To: lquist1

You are probably going to see it a few more times.


26 posted on 04/09/2016 6:09:46 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: altura

What is Trump supposed to do in the face of such corruption from Ted?? Quit?


27 posted on 04/09/2016 6:10:41 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman; altura

There’s an idea.


28 posted on 04/09/2016 6:12:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: dynoman

Trump is going against corrupt shady politicians like Cruz who is wiling to do anything to win which even if if means stealing and disenfranchising the people of states that Trump has already won.

No other candidate before Cruz ever went this route to be so shady which is why Cruz will continue to come off as a SHADY lawyer.

29 posted on 04/09/2016 6:14:23 PM PDT by E20erer (#AlwaysTrump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Cruz is obviously a shady lawyer disenfranchising millions of American voters who too time off work to vote for Trump OVER Cruz in majority of states. And now he has the audacity to go where no other candidate has gone before him which is to steal and disenfranchise primary voters? Cruz is sick in the head or getting very bad advice.


30 posted on 04/09/2016 6:17:58 PM PDT by E20erer (#AlwaysTrump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let corruption win. Great idea!!


31 posted on 04/09/2016 6:23:06 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Subvert the will of we-the-people. Great idea!!


32 posted on 04/09/2016 6:23:51 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do yu really think this is a winning strategy in November?

If this is what you served for you shouldn’t have bothered.


33 posted on 04/09/2016 6:24:38 PM PDT by zek157
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To: dynoman

These are the party primaries, Einstein.


34 posted on 04/09/2016 6:24:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are not part of the 1237?


35 posted on 04/09/2016 6:26:01 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Oh yes they are, of course. Your man’s ineptitude is showing.


36 posted on 04/09/2016 6:28:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: dynoman

“Paul Manafort, Donald Trump’s new convention manager, says he reports directly to Donald Trump and is confident that Trump will have clinched the GOP’s nomination before the convention.”

“Ted Cruz has seen his better days.”

Yea right.. Trump will be lucky to have 50 delegates by convention time!!! West Virginia and Pennsylvania both have unbound delegates.. So guess what? Ted will win those also!!!


37 posted on 04/09/2016 6:30:28 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: zek157

Attacking veterans, just like your idol. I’m disabled, go ahead and mock that too.


38 posted on 04/09/2016 6:33:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Your man’s corruption is showing with is shady dealing of delegates in States Trump has already won. People who voted and then learned later that night that their states delegates would go for Trump have more important things to do than worry about a LOSER like Cruz who is now trying to be all lawyer in a state he already LOST going after delegates.

Cruz’s behavior is unprecedented and is a huge insult to millions of Primary voters. Whoever gave Cruz this campaign strategy will do down as being the single worst campaign adviser in American politics. No one, NO ONE will accept that Cruz someone won Arizona for example in the primaries, when he didn’t.

Cruz is disgusting and a Shady Lawyer.


39 posted on 04/09/2016 6:33:25 PM PDT by E20erer (#AlwaysTrump)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ia/Rep


40 posted on 04/09/2016 6:34:43 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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