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Sen. Mike Lee: Cruz wins on second ballot
The Hill's Briefing Room ^ | April 7, 2016 | Jessie Hellmann

Posted on 04/07/2016 3:09:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: RoosterRedux

Just luv that Trump class;)


61 posted on 04/07/2016 3:31:29 PM PDT by Happy Rain (CRUZ 2016 "Closest thing we have to Reagan." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: KansasGirl
Now Mike Lee is going to get attacked and called GOP-e.

Oh yeah, Trumpsters will throw him under the bus for telling the obvious truth. If it goes to a second ballot, Cruz will almost certainly beat out Trump for the nomination.

Also New York values (ie, east coast liberalism) will suddenly be popular with the Trumpster mob - and Rudy Giuliani, formerly considered a pro abort RINO, will now be some kind of hero for voting for Trump.

What is most amusing of all is contrasting the 2012 primary to this one. In 2012 Romney was routinely and roundly condemned for racking up wins in open primaries with non conservative and Democrat crossovers. Back then it meant he was a squishy moderate attracting people who weren't actual conservatives. The cry went up that all primaries should be closed and Democrat crossovers were unacceptable. Now that Trump relies on this very group of centrists, Democrat and "moderate" crossover in many states the average Trumpster finds it perfectly okay.

62 posted on 04/07/2016 3:31:49 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Go Donald Trump! Go Ted Cruz! Defeat Hillary Clinton!

63 posted on 04/07/2016 3:31:54 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Fantasywriter

It’s not stupidity, that’s why many states have run-off elections when no candidate gets over 50%. The convention is like a run-off election conducted through the delegates. We simply don’t KNOW if over 50% would ever support a candidate until they demonstrate they can get there. And whatever the 50%+ want is what they’re supposed to get in a democracy.


64 posted on 04/07/2016 3:32:19 PM PDT by JediJones (The younger presidential candidate has won the popular vote since '92. Vote younger. Vote Cruz. Win.)
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To: Fantasywriter

I swear it’s all stop making sense! The magic math is being employed along with the psych op that the GOPe really hates Teddy but just went begging on hands and knees to allow them to support him, or something strange like that!

Dear God people, get a hold of reality, these power hungry freaks are NOT on your side, they will do whatever it takes to retain power and control. And here we have people championing this kind of crud. No wonder our ‘party’ is a hot mess.

Thanks alot Cruzers, you guys sure know how to make a compelling argument of why anyone should vote for the one losing (48% in WI is NOT a blow out) over the one winning. Just follow your GOPe masters, stay in line dammit!


65 posted on 04/07/2016 3:32:26 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (Teddy the TOOL - being used and lovin' it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“We have to remember that most Republicans around the country have voted for someone other than Donald Trump.”

Far more voted for someone other than Cruz.


66 posted on 04/07/2016 3:33:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was laying out probable scenarios for my wife. This is pure tea-leaf reading and nothing about where I stand on any candidate.

IMHO: In order of probability (1 is best chance):

1) Trump has enough delegates and is the candidate
2) Trump has a LARGE plurality of delegates and is declared the candidate (saber rattling notwithstanding)
3) Brokered convention, Trump makes a passionate speech but stays put, Cruz wins 2nd vote (this article’s prognostication)
4) Brokered convention, Trump takes his delegates and walks out, GOP Schism — candidate is irrelevant (but probably Cruz)
5) Same as 3 but Trump wins
6) Same as 3 but Kasic wins

There are a LOT of different variations on these and some may not agree (in fact I would be amazed if some agree) but that is the way I read the tea leaves this moment.


67 posted on 04/07/2016 3:33:58 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't mistake my silence for ignorance, my calmness for acceptance, or my kindness for weakness)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Thank you.

If Newt was discussing it, smarter heads are already marshaling arguments for/against the respective sides.

I’m glad someone is thinking about it.

Gwjack


68 posted on 04/07/2016 3:34:30 PM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: jennychase

Yeah if Cruz by a miracle pulls it out, they the media and the Dems won’t suppress Cruz’s pecker problem. It will go 24/7 in the main stream news.


70 posted on 04/07/2016 3:36:09 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Leto
Yeah Trump with his 70% negative is a shoo in for the general election. ;)

All he's gotta do is put Monica Lewinsky and someone dressed in a prison jumpsuit in the front row for he and Hitlery's first debate, and it's all over but the crying. Trump in a landslide come November.

71 posted on 04/07/2016 3:38:51 PM PDT by dware (sCruzballs are working hard to elect Hitlery!)
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To: libbylu

Cruz will then lose the General election by 10-20 million votes.

What will you have gained. Nothing.


73 posted on 04/07/2016 3:39:27 PM PDT by crusher2013 (Liberalism is Aristocracy masquerading as equality)
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To: JediJones

‘It’s not stupidity, that’s why many states have run-off elections when no candidate gets over 50%.’

Trust me, I remember the Cochran/Chris McDaniel runoff.

Indeed, I’ll never forget it.


74 posted on 04/07/2016 3:39:46 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Chris Stierwald gave a strategy last night that he wins on the FIRST ballot. He could do it if he garners enough primary votes, and enough uncommitted and Rubio supporters
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It's amazing to me that we have seen so little discussion of this rather obvious Trump strategy. Surely it has occurred to Let's Make A Deal Trump. That's his thing after all. Should be a piece of cake.


75 posted on 04/07/2016 3:40:59 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: odawg
“We have to remember that most Republicans around the country have voted for someone other than Donald Trump.”
Can someone explain that logic to me” Even FEWER have voted for Cruz.

I will give it a shot. Average Americans know Donald Trump. They know very little about Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, etc. Many of the votes were choices between an unknown and a "hell no." Many of them would still prefer that last unknown standing.

76 posted on 04/07/2016 3:41:07 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Red Steel
media and the Dems won’t suppress Cruz’s pecker problem.

Not only his lying, sleazeball, womanizing, but also his eligibility to run. Remember, kids...it was Hitlery's camp in 2008 that first questioned obunghole's eligibility.

77 posted on 04/07/2016 3:42:04 PM PDT by dware (sCruzballs are working hard to elect Hitlery!)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

‘these power hungry freaks are NOT on your side, they will do whatever it takes to retain power and control. And here we have people championing this kind of crud. No wonder our ‘party’ is a hot mess.’

Pretty soon they will be telling us how ‘clever’ Cochran was to beat Chris McDaniel in the Mississippi runoff.


78 posted on 04/07/2016 3:42:35 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THe GOP is playing a different game than Trump OR Cruz. They are playing to hold onto the control and power and money and influence they have enjoyed for decades.

The strategy clearly is to use Cruz and to a much lesser extent Kasich and Rubio to keep Trump from 1237. Cruz’s main usefullness is to pull delegates away from Trump.

They know they can easily take Cruz out with an eligibilty lawsuit.


79 posted on 04/07/2016 3:43:58 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Durbin
At this point, that’s what I’m hoping for.

Yes, let's pin our hopes on a guy that finishes third in primaries.

80 posted on 04/07/2016 3:44:59 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Ted Cruz polls great with young females, or is it he likes young females on a pole....I get confused)
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