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Sen. Mike Lee: Cruz wins on second ballot
The Hill's Briefing Room ^ | April 7, 2016 | Jessie Hellmann

Posted on 04/07/2016 3:09:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Utah Sen. Mike Lee said he believes Ted Cruz would be the GOP presidential nominee if the convention is contested.

"On successive ballots, I think victory is more likely to go to Ted Cruz," Lee, who is a backer of the Texas senator, said during a radio interview Wednesday. "We have to remember that most Republicans around the country have voted for someone other than Donald Trump."

A convention would become contested if no candidate gets 1,237 delegates beforehand. On the first ballot, delegates are typically bound to the candidates their state picked in the primaries or caucuses. On subsequent ballots, however, many are released and can shift to another candidate.

"I would not be a bit surprised if Ted Cruz won in that circumstance, in fact, I'd be surprised if he didn't. On second ballots, on successive ballots, you're going to see more and more delegates moving to Ted Cruz," Lee said.

Donald Trump leads the pack with 743 delegates, followed by Cruz, who has 517, according to Bloomberg's count. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who left the race last month after a loss in his home state, has 171 delegates, followed by John Kasich, who has 143.


TOPICS: Utah; Campaign News; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: cruz; mikelee; tedcruz; trump
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To: Suz in AZ

I’ll bet you dollars to doughnuts that more Cruz delegates (bound for first ballot) are Cruz people than Trump delegates are actual Trump people.

Cruz has been preparing for this for years. Forming relationships. Visiting states. Working together with others.

Trump found out about this “who the delegates really are” issue last week! He hired a guy today!

What do you think?


121 posted on 04/07/2016 4:16:41 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: KansasGirl
Why does Trump think he should get to play by different rules?

Why do you think delegate manipulation rather than voters should be ones deciding the nominee?

Disenfranchising the voters guarantees a loss in the general.

122 posted on 04/07/2016 4:16:47 PM PDT by Kazan (Trump: Pit bull, Hillary: Pound of hamburger)
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To: Suz in AZ

Lee is a Mormon:

‘Senator Mike Lee, the junior senator from Utah, gave an interview for reason.com in which he discussed the Tea Party faction of the Republican party, the struggles the Republican party is having in connecting with young voters and how his Mormon faith influences his world view.’

http://lds.net/blog/buzz/senator-mike-lee-mormonism/


123 posted on 04/07/2016 4:17:44 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Yeah, or the voters can deliver a clear message. One guy with a majority of the delegates.


124 posted on 04/07/2016 4:17:53 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

I think the tables may soon be turned.


125 posted on 04/07/2016 4:18:33 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: TomGuy
GOOD LORD! They are Pubbies. They fold. That is what they do. Have you not watched Congress?

It's up to the candidates, Cruz and Trump to pick loyal delegates, where they are allowed to pick their own delegates.

126 posted on 04/07/2016 4:20:24 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Leto
Yeah Trump with his 70% negative is a shoo in for the general election. ;)

At least, he can bring in new voters, Reagan Democrats and a chuck of the black vote.And, no one is a better attack dog than Trump.

Ted starts out with the base and loses 20% of it at a minimum by manipulating the delegates and taking the nomination away from the guy with, by far, the most votes.

Ted's negatives are almost as high as Hillary and hasn't even been attacked by the Dems or media yet.

127 posted on 04/07/2016 4:20:48 PM PDT by Kazan (Trump: Pit bull, Hillary: Pound of hamburger)
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To: SoothingDave

Either the voters pick or the Establishment picks. We’ve gone with the Establishment pick for decades. It’s worked so well, we should do it again.

S/


128 posted on 04/07/2016 4:21:53 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: FreeReign

Your “theory” that “many” of them had Cruz as their second choice. A “theory” and “many”. That doesn’t make the stupid statement these people keep making anymore meaningful.

But, your post to me does show you think you’re smarter than everyone else in the room. If you and Cruz and Obama all ended up in the same room, how would you decide who’s the smartest? Eh, smart (ass) guy?


129 posted on 04/07/2016 4:22:25 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Cruz voters: Wake up! Trump is our only chance of stopping the gopE. If not now, never!)
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To: Kazan

If the voters don’t deliver a majority to any one candidate then there is no clear direction. Then the delegates have to do their jobs. If a candidate doesn’t win a majority then he hasn’t won.


130 posted on 04/07/2016 4:22:26 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

“Cruz has failed to bring the party together and he should have since way more people have voted against him than have voted against Trump.”


131 posted on 04/07/2016 4:24:21 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Cruz voters: Wake up! Trump is our only chance of stopping the gopE. If not now, never!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yup. Cruz on 2nd ballot. Fat lady is singing.
132 posted on 04/07/2016 4:25:26 PM PDT by Iowa David (Cruz 2016 - Before it's too late)
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To: SoothingDave

You forget, most of the unbound are party insiders. They may claim to be for Cruz, but the RNC is their boss,


133 posted on 04/07/2016 4:25:30 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Attend a Trump Rally and get to "Punch a Commie for Mommy.")
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To: TexasGator
Ted Cruz and the "kill the gays" pastor:

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/trump-supporters-demand-ted-cruz-disavow-firebrand-kill-the-gays-pastor/news-story/7ef3873a38600f733b0d5e4e9b1bc904

134 posted on 04/07/2016 4:26:10 PM PDT by Kazan (Trump: Pit bull, Hillary: Pound of hamburger)
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To: SoothingDave
The delegates, acting in their role as stewards of the party are under no obligation to nominate a candidate like Trump, with the highest unfavorables ever recorded

Never mind, Cruz's are almost as high and he hasn't even been attacked yet by the media and Dems and that he has no chance of winning votes outside of the GOP base.

135 posted on 04/07/2016 4:27:52 PM PDT by Kazan (Trump: Pit bull, Hillary: Pound of hamburger)
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To: Durbin

If Cruz does not get the nomination on second vote and Ryan or an equally offensive Obama lackey does will you cry?


136 posted on 04/07/2016 4:29:19 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: Kazan

“Ted’s negatives are almost as high”

Ted Cruz Favorable Rating
Asked of 1,076 adults
Unfavorable 59%
Favorable 26%
Undecided 14%
Refused 1%

Ted’s are pretty bad. But the kick is over the last 2 months his unfavorables have gone straight up. It shows that as more Americans get to know him, the more they don’t like him. In two weeks his numbers will be every bit as bad as Trump’s and maybe worse.


137 posted on 04/07/2016 4:30:12 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: Iowa David

Lets be generous, Lets say Trump goes in with 1200 delegates, thats a low estimate by even the Ryan Nominating crowd. Do you really think somebody with his resources cannot afford to influence 37 people of the hundreds there who do not hate him nor are in love with Cruz? it would Probably cost less then an ad buy...

The point is its very likely he wins on a first vote because he can buy the missing votes better then anybody else.


138 posted on 04/07/2016 4:31:02 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Attend a Trump Rally and get to "Punch a Commie for Mommy.")
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To: Suz in AZ

How is that?


139 posted on 04/07/2016 4:31:05 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Fantasywriter

The “voters” have picked in every election since 1976. That’s the last time a convention was open.

I an more comfortable with a pick by people who have invested time and effort for the party than with a huckster who decided to be conservative last year. And whose supporters crow about destroying their own party.

Call me funny that way.


140 posted on 04/07/2016 4:34:11 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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