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This is why illegal immigration has become such a flash point…
Neo-Neocon ^ | September 17, 2015

Posted on 09/17/2015 10:38:27 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

…and why someone like Trump, who emphasizes it, has gained so much traction with that.

People are angry at stories like this one, in which the illegal immigrant is presented as being a poor, beleaguered person (in this case a mother of young children) whose rights are being taken away:

On September 3, Blanca Borrego of Houston went for a scheduled appointment to see her gynecologist at the Memorial Hermann Northeast Women’s Healthcare clinic. She had two of her children with her.

Instead of seeing her doctor, she was arrested. This is why:

Borrego [is] an undocumented immigrant who overstayed her visa 12 years ago.

A search of Borrego’s possessions turned up a fake Social Security card, resulting in a felony charge for tampering with government documents. Borrego’s bond has been set at $35,000, which her family is unable to afford, and she now faces potential deportation.

But the writer and several organizations want us to feel sorry for her:

In a statement regarding healthcare for unauthorized immigrants issued by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) in March of this year, the organization made explicit their support for a “basic health care package for all women living within the United States without regard to their country of origin or documentation.”

An estimated 11.3 million individuals living in the United States are undocumented, with women comprising 47 percent of this population…

Ana Rodriguez DeFrates of the Texas Latina Advocacy Network said in a statement that the arrest “raises serious questions about patient privacy and human rights of immigrant women in Texas.”…

“The sad fact is that many immigrant women in Texas, and across the country, already forgo needed healthcare, live with lumps in their breasts and daily pain, because clinics are inaccessible or put them at risk for deportation,” she said.

“This is an ongoing human rights crisis, and Blanca Borrego’s arrest shines a light on the struggles of immigrant women, who are routinely denied driver’s licenses, affordable healthcare, and other basic human and civil rights.”

Notice how drivers’ licenses and affordable healthcare (not just plain old healthcare) have become “basic rights” for everyone, even non-citizen lawbreakers.

The article’s commenters are not in agreement with these sentiments, to say the least. Every single comment I read expressed outrage. Of course, I certainly haven’t read them all; there are over 5,000 as I write this. But every single one I read seemed to come from a person who was breathing fire.

This one was informative:

Identity theft is a serious crime and should be punished. The clinic did not report her because of her immigration status. They reported her for showing a fake ID. Another article described what was not right about the fake licence. The state seal was in the wrong place,a hologram was missing and the letters were the wrong color. It wasn’t even a good fake. Give credit to the alert clinic worker who took the time to look closely. With that and the fake SS card she should serve a couple years in prison before being deported.

This was fairly typical:

What about the rights of the person whose SS numbers she’s illegally using? The economic and physical hardship they are enduring with their credit being destroyed and flagged as fraudulent? What about the rights of the thousands involved in accidents with illegals using fake IDs and no insurance? The need of a law abiding citizen who may have to be forced to forgo medical care because they now have to pay for it themselves, and the economic ramifications it has on all our insurance costs? What are the rights of the woman who may have been turned away from this medical office because this women took her place on the patient roll call?

What about the national security ramifications of people walking around with fake government papers, using our resources and having the ability to access secured facilities with ease?

You are a disgrace to journalism with a one sided article somehow ignoring all the people who suffer and will potentially suffer because of those who are breaking the law and committing fraud. This far outweighs the medical needs of those who can find care in their legal homes of origin should they need it.

The article, with its “undocumented” this and “undocumented” that, highlights the rift between the MSM and the people. The MSM and the left has been pushing the narrative that such a woman is a victim (complete with crying children) rather than a perpetrator. But the vast majority of readers aren’t buying it for an instant.

And this is a report of something that’s happening thousands of miles away, in Sweden, to immigrants with a different status. But it’s a related story nevertheless:

The bleary-eyed travelers arriving in Malmo’s glass-and-steel train station agreed on one thing: Sweden was a better place to go than Denmark, which has cut welfare benefits for refugees.

But many said Finland was even better.

“Why Finland? I tell you, because they give us the documents faster,” said Ghanem, a 23-year-old Iraqi, who like many making the journey declined to give his full name. They are worried about being identified by authorities and prevented from going to their preferred destinations. “Sweden, Germany, they will take one year, two years.”

Though the 28-nation European Union has common rules for how to receive asylum-seekers, the benefits provided once they arrive vary widely from one country to the next…

Most are aiming to reach wealthier countries in northern Europe, particularly Germany and Sweden, which stand out for their efforts to offer a generous welcome. However, German authorities say the expectations of people arriving are sometimes unrealistic.

“Germany isn’t just the country of milk and honey, where everything you would want flies into your mouth like a fried pigeon,” German Foreign Ministry spokesman Martin Shaefer said last week.

EU rules require member states to ensure “a dignified standard of living” for asylum-seekers. That includes housing, food, clothing, a daily allowance, and access to public health care, education and the job market while their claim is processed, which can take up to a year or more.

Getting benefits is now a big, big part of illegal immigration and of becoming a refugee (or claiming to be a refugee). A lot of the people engaged in that process are quite savvy about where they choose to go and what they will get after they’re arrived, and make decisions accordingly. They count on people such as Ana Rodriguez DeFrates to smooth the way, and to try to talk the citizens of the host country into seeing these benefits as rights and themselves as racist “nativists” for thinking there’s something wrong with this entire process.


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To: Aria

I think you’re on to something but let’s not give them a bill they can crumble up and throw in the waste basket.

How about we impose a tariff, or tax if you will, on all goods coming into the country from Mexico, and call it “Immigrant Support Payment”. Say 25% of every tomato, avocado, barrel of oil, manufactured item, like new Ford automobiles, etc., etc., based simply on the humanitarian effort to support destitute Mexicans in this country. Also, we need to charge a 50% tax, same justification, on ever dollar electronically transferred fro the United States to Mexico.


21 posted on 09/18/2015 8:38:27 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Aria

How ‘bout just derailing the gravy-train for good instead? In fact, there’s a few Amendments, if the Const. were followed, that would back-up the point.

Course, that’s a big IF...and ‘way back when’ /s?...I wish it were


22 posted on 09/18/2015 10:57:02 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...
Ping!

Click the keyword Aliens to see more illegal alien, border security, and other related threads.

23 posted on 09/18/2015 11:26:41 AM PDT by HiJinx (May there be a road!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Illegals will vote Democrat. They will become the ‘new blacks’...

If they’re made legal they will so overwhelm Republican voters that they’ll create the corrupt totalitarian hellholes they’ve come from...

Every city will be Detroit...or Chicago ...or Baltimore... or Mexico City.


24 posted on 09/18/2015 11:33:02 AM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: GOPJ

bttt


25 posted on 09/18/2015 11:33:44 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Thanks.. You might enjoy this Dante...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)


26 posted on 09/18/2015 11:36:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: Califreak
I hear you! We looked after Mom until her resources dwindled, then applied for a VA Pension to keep her living with a little dignity. When she finally needed full-time nursing home care, we navigated the Medicade maze to get her approved. She passed away two weeks after we filed and was finally approved another six weeks after that.

Along the way, we saw people who were obviously far better off financially gaming the system.

27 posted on 09/18/2015 12:05:42 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

If I didn’t know better I would feel like a chump for ever working a day in my life.


28 posted on 09/18/2015 12:12:06 PM PDT by Califreak (Hope and Che'nge is killing U.S. Feel the Trump-mentum!(insert ireally.supportCruzdisclaimerhere/))
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To: kearnyirish2

You know,the more I read about the influx of immigrants,legal and illegal,I wonder if the politicians have lost their collective minds.

How in hell do they think that this country is going to survive?

I remember when Russians poured into my area in the 80s. Some were elderly and because they were considered refugees they got all of the senior housing. WWII vets who were on the list were kicked aside.The younger ones,also considered refugees,got all of the subsidized and Section 8 housing.

Just ranting here,but I’m fed up.

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29 posted on 09/18/2015 12:27:19 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Tspud1

I want the flat tax if for no other reason than to get rid of the ridiculous 7,000 page tax code we have now. There is no reason in the world why anyone should have to hire an “expert” to do their taxes every year, or buy new software, or spend hours and hours doing it themselves. That is the hidden part of the income taz.


30 posted on 09/18/2015 12:57:37 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I remember listening to a black American radio host named Terry Anderson, (since passed away.) He said he brought his elderly mother to the doctor and the doctor told her, “The cost of your medication” (which this elderly lady needed to stay alive,) “has gone up to $800 a month.” Terry said he was in tears. Neither he nor his mother could afford that. Terry asked the nurse, “What if my mother was an illegal alien?” The nurse said, “Oh, in that case, we’d not only give her the medication for free, but we’d FedEx it overnight to her house.”

We’ve all heard the horror stories. The American people are LIVID about this. It’s the reason Trump gets five-minute standing ovations whenever he says we have to stop illegal immigration. If we don’t solve this problem, this country is THROUGH. Nothing else even matters right now. It affects everything else. We have to stop cowering at the “R” word and do what needs to be done. No squeamishness, no apologies. Boot them out. They broke in, they’ve got to go, end of story.


31 posted on 09/18/2015 1:08:51 PM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A search of Borrego’s possessions turned up a fake Social Security card, resulting in a felony charge for tampering with government documents.

I have a hard time believing this. Back in the 1990s I was a Border Patrol Agent working in Fresno, CA. I arrested thousands of illegal aliens and virtually every one had a counterfeit SS card and fake immigration card. They were being sold at the swap meet for $15 bucks.

Prosecution for document fraud? Are you kidding me. The US Attorney would have laughed in my face if I presented such a case.

Once I arrested a group of 5 illegals working the fields. They all had counterfeit SS and immigration cards. So I took them to the labor contractors office to make sure they got paid and I asked to see the Form I-9 for each of them. Sure enough each had used their fake docks to fill out the I-9 and under penalty of perjury signed the form.

So I had them on about 5 felonies each. I talked to the US Attorney and he agreed to present the case.

At the initial appearance the US Magistrate listened to our presentation and got a funny look on his face and said:

"I guess it must be a slow day at the US attorneys office". <>The case was dropped and I got the message to never present another one like that.

Sorry for the rant but the fed gov has never taken doc fraud seriously when it comes to immigration.

32 posted on 09/18/2015 3:49:34 PM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: GOPJ

I did, that was great THX.


33 posted on 09/18/2015 4:16:10 PM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: usurper

FWIW I’m of the opinion that identity theft should be a capital crime. Hang a few of them and the rest will notice.


34 posted on 09/18/2015 7:07:04 PM PDT by PLMerite ("The issue is never the issue. The issue is the Revolution.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“....the organization made explicit their support for a “basic health care package for all women living within the United States without regard to their country of origin or documentation.””

Well if the doctors want to donate their time we should applaud them.


35 posted on 09/18/2015 9:04:49 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (CA the sanctuary state for stupid.)
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To: Mears
You know,the more I read about the influx of immigrants,legal and illegal,I wonder if the politicians have lost their collective minds. How in hell do they think that this country is going to survive?

Democrats don't care if they destroy the county...or the people who live here. These 'immigrants/illegals' are 'money in the bank' for them - they'll keep their corrupt little behinds in power for generations.

Elites in most countries don't care if 'the people' starve to death - or almost starve - just so long as they keep working and providing for the elites. Our elites are no different.

36 posted on 09/19/2015 9:07:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: Nea Wood
He said he brought his elderly mother to the doctor and the doctor told her, “The cost of your medication” (which this elderly lady needed to stay alive,) “has gone up to $800 a month.” Terry said he was in tears. Neither he nor his mother could afford that. Terry asked the nurse, “What if my mother was an illegal alien?” The nurse said, “Oh, in that case, we’d not only give her the medication for free, but we’d FedEx it overnight to her house.” We’ve all heard the horror stories. The American people are LIVID about this. It’s the reason Trump gets five-minute standing ovations whenever he says we have to stop illegal immigration.

BINGO

37 posted on 09/19/2015 9:12:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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To: usurper

Thanks. Pass it on - people have to know what we’re dealing with...


38 posted on 09/19/2015 10:06:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
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