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Donald Trump Unveils His BOLD Income Tax Proposal - This is a BIG DEAL!
Political Insider ^ | 2015-09-14 | TP Writer

Posted on 09/15/2015 9:59:37 PM PDT by entropy12

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To: entropy12

So the tax policy incentive is to not earn more, stay on welfare.


201 posted on 09/16/2015 1:22:02 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Yes, you can play the semantics game. It is a tax on income. Satisfied?

Calling a "tax on income" an income tax is semantics? OK.

Have you ever had to pay “self employment tax” or have you ever had an employee. The employer absolutely pays an equal amount of taxes. At least the IRS made ME do that. And I know I am not special.

No, the employer is not paying the tax. The employer is just collecting and remitting the tax. Every penny of what it costs an employer to hire an employee is employee wages. What do you suppose the market would do to wage and employment rates if FICA were abolished and employers suddenly had 14% more budget to spend?

The government requires the employer to report half of the FICA tax as tax paid by the employee and half as "employer matching". But that is just a labeling trick to fool the employee about the rate he's paying.

202 posted on 09/16/2015 1:30:11 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

Sharp is not really a an adjective I would use when describing your logic.


203 posted on 09/16/2015 1:48:49 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: SeeSharp

No, I would not call FICA “income tax” because that’s not the same thing.

If you cannot understand that, then you must always think when you get a bonus it “kicks you into a new bracket.”


204 posted on 09/16/2015 1:51:29 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt
Sharp is not really a an adjective I would use when describing your logic.

Yet you cite no flaw in my logic. Are we down to insults now? No arguments left?

No, I would not call FICA “income tax” because that’s not the same thing.

Yet FICA is an income tax. You can call it what you like.

If you cannot understand that, then you must always think when you get a bonus it “kicks you into a new bracket.”

And now you're just making things up.

205 posted on 09/16/2015 2:47:49 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Jane Long

Sorry Jane, but I can’t bend anymore on my candidates.

He should have known better about Kim, or kept quiet. She was following the law, and her conscience in what she did. I’m in KY, and we have a Constitutional Amendment that covers her for both issues, and the Supreme Court can NOT make law.

As far as the Taxes, no matter how you paint that it still punishes success by making successful people pay higher taxes, to me that’s wrong, and I can not support it.

I’ve been bothered ethically for years about having to choose the lesser of 2 evils because “he can get elected, and once he gets there we know he’ll do the right thing”.

Never again. I will not ever sacrifice my conservative values, even if it means losing.

By the way, on PP he only wants to defund the bad parts. How he doesn’t know PP is an abortion mill, and is all bad is beyond me. Not one dime of my taxes should go to those butchers ever again.

You can support him if you like, and you’ll never catch a seconds criticism from me. I refuse to roam around posts and attack other peoples candidates. I read most of them though, and the way to convince people your candidate is better is not by calling non supporters commies, or GOPe. I know of very few on FR.
All that does is make us who feel we are standing true to our principles angry, and resentful of Trump supporters, and less likely to listen to any argument in favor of the guy.

His continued friendship with Cruz, is the one thing that keeps my hopes up about Trump. If that continues, I’ll probably vote for the guy in the general election, and since I’m in KY, my vote in the primaries is worth the same as air.


206 posted on 09/16/2015 4:11:39 PM PDT by rikkir (You can lead a horde to knowledge but you can't make them think. (TnkU ctdonath2))
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To: zeugma

Amazing, and mind boggling is what that is.

Wow $2200, on $650,000, and look where we are today.

Last check, all in, Fed, State, Local, etc. we pay 60% of our income in some form of a Tax.

Anybody believe Socialism isn’t here already?


207 posted on 09/16/2015 4:23:16 PM PDT by rikkir (You can lead a horde to knowledge but you can't make them think. (TnkU ctdonath2))
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To: zeugma
Well, that sounds like a lot of money until you consider that what that really means is that in today's dollars, someone would have to make $653,315.69 per year to pay that $2177.72 in income tax.

Are you saying that someone is 1913 would have had to made 653,315.69 to pay 2,177.72 in taxes?

208 posted on 09/16/2015 5:06:06 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: D-fendr

You are confused! Read my posts again!


209 posted on 09/16/2015 6:51:56 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors!)
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To: Robert DeLong

Plug in the numbers yourself. The entire form and and instructions is in the pdf


210 posted on 09/16/2015 7:17:09 PM PDT by zeugma (Zaphod Beeblebrox for president! Or Cruz if Zaphod is unavailable.)
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To: speedracerx

No worries, I admire greatly, posters who are willing to apologize for any errors, which we all make sometimes.


211 posted on 09/16/2015 7:25:24 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors!)
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To: Mr Rogers

At the end of day, a rising tide lifts all boats. Tax policy which encourages formation of new businesses and expansion of existing ones in paramount.

But a 70,000 page tax code is crazy. It is all the result of pandering by career politicians to lobbyists.


212 posted on 09/16/2015 8:36:32 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors!)
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To: zeugma
Neat!

Thanks for the historical trip down despot lane - I saved the pdf as a curiosity.

213 posted on 09/17/2015 2:50:54 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Robert DeLong
(I wasn't able to do a copy/paste before)

Are you saying that someone is 1913 would have had to made 653,315.69 to pay 2,177.72 in taxes?

Here's what I actually sad. I think it's pretty clear.

Back in 1913, there were 6 tax brackets.Those making under $20,000 per year paid no tax. According to this inflation calculator, $20,000 in 1913 was equivalent to $435,543.79 in 2010. This first $20k was subtracted from your income so even if you made $30,000, you were only taxed on the last $10,000 of it. The rate was a whopping 1%. So, let's take that hypothetical person who made $30,000 in 1913. He would have paid $100 in taxes on it. If you run that through the above inflation calculator, you'll see that it would be equivalent to $2177.72 today. Well, that sounds like a lot of money until you consider that what that really means is that in today's dollars, someone would have to make $653,315.69 per year to pay that $2177.72 in income tax.

214 posted on 09/17/2015 8:26:57 AM PDT by zeugma (Zaphod Beeblebrox for president! Or Cruz if Zaphod is unavailable.)
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