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The GOP Field That Failed
The Politico Magazine ^ | August 26, 2015 | Rich Lowry, editor, The National Review

Posted on 08/27/2015 9:08:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So the editor of National Review is now writing for Politico, a left wing rag run by Washington Post rejects.

Is there any doubt that the ruling elites are all part of the Uniparty?


21 posted on 08/27/2015 9:38:50 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bush is throwing sand in his own eyes, no bully required.


22 posted on 08/27/2015 9:40:13 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Working on a new Tagline, I'll get back to you.)
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To: nickcarraway

“If this were a football game, we’d be at Wednesday practice now”

Spot on. We have months and months of this crap to wade through. It’s a long, seemingly endless forced march to next November. Thank God we have Trump to entertain us for awhile. It’s great fun watching the drive-by dolts and so-called elites on both “sides” blowing brain fuses over this.

They had it all so carefully plotted out to manage Hillary’s coronation and it’s all been blown to h*ll. Ha ha ha


23 posted on 08/27/2015 9:40:53 PM PDT by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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To: tumblindice
Ir would be great fun to have Buckley back so we could get his unique take on all this!


24 posted on 08/27/2015 9:42:28 PM PDT by Bobalu (See my freep page for political images.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

None of them get it. It doesn’t have a thing to do with Bush or Christie or Kasich except they’re in the them camp of the ‘us or them’ feud.

That’s it, no fancy analysis needed.


25 posted on 08/27/2015 9:44:15 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: a fool in paradise

The media only wants to “talk about” Jeb and Hillary because Jeb and Hillary both have loads of advertising dollars and the media wants them. The more they prop up those two, the more money the media makes.

Now, ask yourself why the media, as a profit-making enterprise, is even allowed to do things like host debates.


26 posted on 08/27/2015 9:46:35 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Bobalu

You can get a flavor of it reading AS’s Emmett Tyrrell, Jr., but he’s not Bill Buckley.
Yeah. Maybe we’re just old codgers, or I am.


27 posted on 08/27/2015 9:48:36 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I stopped at;

"Now, this has much to do with the media, and with Trump’s unique qualities as a showman"

Because this has everything to do with lame personalities (with the exception of Newt) that we really tried to like and support ... but damnit .... they just didn't TALK to us ... just AT us.

28 posted on 08/27/2015 9:53:04 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trumps success in the polls comes from telling people what they want to hear. He may or may not believe it, too. He’s the used car salesman in the race. His promises will, like every presidents, depend on whether he will have a Congressional majority sufficient enough to make things happen. Since a big part of the Trump mission is to destroy the Republican Party, it’s hard to see who he will collaborate with in Congress. Granted, many of Trump’s supporters think that Trump should be as vain and as unconstrained by the constitution as Obama has been. The indifference to the constraints on a president by the constitution is a recipe for failure. Trump will have over promised and under delivered. It’s also why he’s fundamentally not a serious candidate and why the US Presidency is not an entry level position.
But anyone not supporting Trump is suddenly not a real conservative and possibly not a real man.


29 posted on 08/27/2015 9:53:53 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: TTFlyer

Well said!


30 posted on 08/27/2015 9:54:13 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lowry? Sounds like he’s broadcasting from the RNC headquarters.


31 posted on 08/27/2015 9:54:47 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Bobalu

Now THERE’S a fantasy I can entertain !


32 posted on 08/27/2015 10:02:03 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: tumblindice
Maybe we’re just old codgers

"I resemble that remark" --Moe Howard

33 posted on 08/27/2015 10:11:10 PM PDT by Bobalu (See my freep page for political images.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not really good analysis. The fellow believes that "clearly Bush is right" on immigration. (That's really wrong.) Like the rest of the GOPee, he thinks the problem is form not substance. If Bush looked and acted more manly, he wouldn't be losing to Trump since it can't possibly be that JEB! is wrong about immigration.

Even though once again he's mistaken a lack of substance for a lack of form, the meat of this whole article is in the last line:

"Even if he fades, though, someone else will have to fill the screen. To this point, No one else has been big or vivid enough to do it."

I believe someone who is willing to address the areas Trump has and who is not seen as a politician owned by the wealthy GOPees could do very well if Trump somehow disappears from the scene. Cruz or Carson seem to be naturals for the position but the GOPee will come after every and any one who takes over for Trump and is not already owned by them. Just think 2012 all over again.

That is why they keep wishing and hoping for Trump to drop in the polls. The longer Trump stays on top, the harder it will be to put one of their own in place without ripping the whole party election process apart. But, rip it apart they will do because they would rather the democrats win than for someone they don't control to win.

These elites/establishment refuse to believe that it is their ideas that are the problem. No one wants their amnesty. No matter how many times they attempt to label it conservative, giving jobs and tax payer supplied money and gimmees to foreigner invaders is not considered acceptable by US citizens. Until they understand that, no analysis from them will be very good.

I expect the Pees to go full scorched earth if Trump is still leading up to the primaries. It will be as it was in FL 2012, Romney vs. Gingrich. The problem for the Pees, Trump is a known quantity. No calling him out as racist as they did to McDaniel in Mississippi. It will just make them look racist. They won't have the money advantage that Romney had over Gingrich. They certainly won't have media savvy and control over Trump the way they bombarded Gingrich. But that does not mean they won't try.

34 posted on 08/27/2015 10:11:22 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Bobalu

“Extinguished gentlemen” — Slip Mahoney


35 posted on 08/27/2015 10:21:57 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Bobalu

That’s the way I see it.


36 posted on 08/27/2015 10:27:34 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well...

In the argument with Trump over mass deportation, clearly Bush is right.

It's kinda tough to get past that.

37 posted on 08/27/2015 10:34:08 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: Bobalu
"Trump should actually fear for his physical safety!"

Andrew Jackson – shot at by Richard Lawrence (Suspected Democrat plot, no proof.)
Abraham Lincoln – 3 attempts – Democrats, Baltimore, 1861; Democrat confederates, Aug, 1864, Shot at from ambush; shot dead by J.W. Booth, Democrat, April, 1865
James A. Garfield – shot by Charles J. Guiteau, utopian communalist. (Modern progressive.)
William McKinley – shot by Leon Czolgosz, Far left Socialist
Theodore Roosevelt - shot, wounded, by John F. Schrank, Anti third term motive.
Franklin D. Roosevelt – Shot at by Giuseppi Zangara, Marxist, (He missed and killed Chicago Mayor Anton Cermak.)
Harry S. Truman – attacked by Oscar Collazo, Griselio Torreslo, Leftist revolutionaries who wanted a Socialist Puerto Rico.
John F. Kennedy – shot by Lee H. Oswald, Communist.
Richard Nixon - Samuel Byck thought Nixon was oppressing the poor, attempted airplane hijack to crash into White House.
Gerald Ford – Waved gun, failed to properly load it, by Lynette Fromme, Anarchist; shot at by Sara Brady, progressive Socialist, lousy shot.

There is a pattern.

Why am I not calm about Trump's chances? Any Hillary supporter is insane, going out the gate. And no Leftist will feel too bad if Trump catches a bullet. For them it's a two-fer. They get rid of a threat, and demagogue some gun control.

38 posted on 08/28/2015 12:00:35 AM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whether by accident or by coordination both Charles Krauthammer and Rick Lowry on the same day have maneuvered toward Marco Rubio as the new establishment answer to Donald Trump.

It is interesting that both of these pundits identify immigration as the key issue. Lowry argues, "In the argument with Trump over mass deportation, clearly Bush is right." By extension, one assumes that Marco Rubio whom conservatives see as a rank betrayer on this issue, is also right. Marco Rubio has disqualified himself in the eyes of informed conservatives when he betrayed his Tea Party base to sleep with the Gang of Eight on immigration. Ever cynical, the Republican Establishment believes that informed conservatives amount to only such a small minority within a minority that Marco Rubio's evident onstage skills will ultimately prevail with less well-informed conservatives and independents.

Revealingly, the establishment argument over immigration inevitably reverts to alleged electability. Republicans cannot win, the argument goes, without a respectable showing on election day in the Latino demographic with the breakpoint usually put at about 40%. Antagonize Latino voters on the issue of immigration, they warn us, and lose the national election. Who better to soothe the misgivings of Spanish-speaking people of color than a Latino with matinee idol looks who has associated his name with amnesty?

The establishment's reverting to arguing electability is revealing because it betokens their cynicism on every issue beyond immigration. We dare not shut the government down, the people will blame Republicans and nothing, not Obama care, not bankrupting the country with runaway debt, is worth an election.

No principle is worth losing an election, fidelity to no promise is worth losing an election, adherence to oath and Constitution is not worth losing an election. It is not worth losing an election to repeal Obamacare. It is not worth losing an election to save the country from bankruptcy, it is not worth losing an election for any cause by shutting the government down or even appearing to be associated with a shutdown done by Obama. It is not worth it to defend the people against the bureaucrats, to defend the people against executive tyranny done by executive order. It is not worth it to oppose leftist judges, leftist attorneys general, leftist IRS agents, leftist schemers in every dark bureaucratic corner of the Obama administration. Nothing dear to conservatives is worth it.

It is however worth risking an election by offending the conservative base; it is worth risking an election to keep faith with crony capitalists; it is worth risking an election to keep the border open whether in the Oval Office or out; it is worth losing an election by serving K St. at the expense of Main Street; it is worth risking an election to presume on the faithfulness of the conservative base while betraying it to billionaire campaign contributors. Is worth risking an election by cutting secret deals with Obama to betray conservative constituents.

It is even worth risking the security of the nation to abandon the constitutional mandate to advise and consent to Obama's secret dealings enabling Iran getting the bomb.

When Marco Rubio slipped in between the sheets with a Gang of Eight on immigration he did nothing more than reveal shortly after his arrival in Washington that he was a quick study. Now the pundits Krauthammer and Lowry nudge unwary conservatives in the direction of Marco Rubio. Soon every establishment Republicans will argue that winning the election is everything. Implied: principle is expendable.

Principled informed conservatives reply, winning with cynics and opportunists is worth nothing. Winning with establishment Republicans is the equivalent of losing.

If demographics is destiny in politics, conservatism has perhaps only this election cycle before it is swept away by a cynically contrived flood of Democrat voting immigrants. Now the very people who caused this, especially the Bush family, and those who at least condoned the Democrats practicing immigration politics, raise their own misfeasance as reason to continue them in power. Properly translated into honest English the GOPe is saying, we have created an immigrant population that must be appeased, we have created a monster which must be fed.

Informed conservatives know this is our last chance.


39 posted on 08/28/2015 12:05:36 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: jonascord
Franklin D. Roosevelt – Shot at by Giuseppi Zangara, Marxist, (He missed and killed Chicago Mayor Anton Cermak.)

I did not know this!.

Thanks for posting this great reply!

40 posted on 08/28/2015 12:13:20 AM PDT by Bobalu (See my freep page for political images.)
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