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Opinion: What if candidate Cruz catches on?
The Pocono Record ^
| March 28, 2015
| Douglas Cohn and Eleanor Clift
Posted on 03/28/2015 5:12:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: entropy12; ClearCase_guy
Senator Cruz has zero legislation passed with his sponsorship so far. But primary process is long ways away. Senator Cruz has plenty of time to woo the senators and congress critters and get a consensus going to pass some important and meaningful legislation such as abolishing the IRS.
This has always been an empty criticism of Senator Cruz, and a false comparison to what Walker has supposedly done.
How about we objectively compare the two, OK?:
Scott Walker:
Republican Governor WITH a Republican Controlled Legislature, BOTH chambers mind you.
Ted Cruz:
A Tea-Party Senator who has sponsored many, many righteous conservative bills in a Senate that, until lately, was controlled by the Democrats. Add to that a GOP-Establishment Leadership that is not conservative by any means and hates his guts, to the point of warning off campaign contributors to his Super-PAC and disparaging him whenever they can.
In short, all Walker had to do was move his wrist and sign the bills as the Chief Executive of Wisconsin, the Legislature of Wisconsin did all the heavy work of creating the bill and getting it through the congress of Wisconsin. If Walker even didn't have one GOP-Controlled chamber of the Wis. Legislature he would not have had anything to sign.
If you are going to make comparisons, please try and compare apples to apples and not Apples to Oranges.
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posted on
03/28/2015 7:20:36 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: Drew68
Cruz doesn't have a chance in hell. He's a junior senator with no executive experience, opposition from his own party, eligibility issues and he's facing off against a pre-decided candidate with a powerful last name.
Never gonna happen.
Executive Experience?
So Scott Walker signed bills that the GOP Controlled legislature did all the heavy lifting on and somehow that makes him more qualified than Ted Cruz?
You do realize there have been just as many horrible Presidents that had your vaunted "Executive Experience" and managed to destroy much of our precious individual liberties right?
Furthermore, you do realize that to date, sixteen of our Presidents were either senators or had no "Executive Experience" before they became President of the United States, many who have not only made decent Presidents but Good Presidents as well. Three senators, Warren G. Harding, John F. Kennedy, and Barack Obama moved directly from the U.S. Senate to the White House.
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Finally, he has no eligibility issues except in the minds of some crankpots.
Your supporting premises for your conclusion are laughable and without merit.
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posted on
03/28/2015 7:35:19 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: SoConPubbie
Your supporting premises for your conclusion are laughable and without merit. Take a breath and read it again.
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posted on
03/28/2015 7:37:58 PM PDT
by
Drew68
To: Drew68
Take a breath and read it again.
I read it again, still reads the same way.
Help a fella out here, will ya?!
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posted on
03/28/2015 7:42:48 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: upchuck; Kale; Jarhead9297; COUNTrecount; notaliberal; DoughtyOne; RitaOK; MountainDad; ...
Ted Cruz Ping!
If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.
Please beware, this is a high-volume ping list!
CRUZ or LOSE!
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posted on
03/28/2015 7:43:43 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: txhurl
Denial moving to Bargaining/Acceptance.Well played my friend, well played...
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posted on
03/28/2015 7:44:24 PM PDT
by
taildragger
(It's Cruz, Pence, or Walker. Anything else is a Yugo with Racing Stripes....)
To: SoConPubbie
Help a fella out here, will ya?! It was sarcasm.
Ted Cruz doesn't have a chance in hell for all the reasons I listed. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? I recall thinking the same thing about a certain junior senator from Illinois back in '07.
He didn't have a chance either.
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posted on
03/28/2015 7:54:02 PM PDT
by
Drew68
To: Drew68
Sorry about that, apparently my “Sarcasm” Radar is on the blitz tonight. Forgive me my FRiend!
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posted on
03/28/2015 7:55:04 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: SoConPubbie
Sorry about that, apparently my Sarcasm Radar is on the blitz tonight. Forgive me my Friend!It's all good. It's Saturday night!
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posted on
03/28/2015 7:58:31 PM PDT
by
Drew68
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The early line on Cruz is that while hes undeniably smart, even brilliant, that he has charted such a narrow path for himself on the far right of his party that he could not reach out to the rest of America should he manage to win the nomination.Bull hockey!!
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posted on
03/28/2015 8:07:45 PM PDT
by
luvie
(All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris, Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!)
To: Drew68
I somehow missed the sarcasm tag as well.
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posted on
03/28/2015 8:11:58 PM PDT
by
txhurl
To: 2ndDivisionVet
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posted on
03/28/2015 8:47:57 PM PDT
by
onyx
(PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
To: Drew68
Lighter than air man flight, never going to happen, so they said in the late 19th century.
To: Slyfox
To: SoConPubbie
I am all in favor of senator Cruz’s agenda. Every single one of them!
Some reasons Walker is ahead of Cruz in my preference list is because Walker was fought tooth and nail by unions with nationwide help in money & people, in a blue state (WI Voted for Obama twice?) and won 3 elections in a 4 year period. No other governor has survived 2 recall elections in one term in my memory. Other reason why I keep Walker ahead of Cruz is he has ACTUAL RECORD of cutting taxes and Balancing budgets. Proven executive experience counts! And frankly in my humble opinion, Walker is more likable than Cruz.
All that said, I will celebrate if senator Cruz wins nomination and wins in general. He certainly has the skills to accomplish that. Again, IMHO, I give governor Walker a greater chance of winning in general election than senator Cruz. In my observation, Walker will face much less virulent attacks by media than Cruz. I am sure you are aware, 90% of voters are not political junkies. They do not log onto FR or read political news. Most can’t even name who the Vice President is. So I am not willing to ignore effect media has on voters.
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posted on
03/28/2015 10:38:52 PM PDT
by
entropy12
(Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
To: entropy12
Other reason why I keep Walker ahead of Cruz is he has ACTUAL RECORD of cutting taxes and Balancing budgets. Proven executive experience counts!
And as I have been posting concerning this premise, so what?
He has a record ONLY BECAUSE he has a Republican controlled Legislature THAT IS WORKING WITH HIM!
Cruz doesn't have any of his bills passed for the EXACT OPPOSITE REASONS!
Take away the GOP Controlled Wisconsin Legislature and Walker is in the exact same boat as Cruz!
There is no there there in that point of yours.
It is an empty and non-existent comparison.
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posted on
03/28/2015 10:56:41 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: entropy12
Some reasons Walker is ahead of Cruz in my preference list is because Walker was fought tooth and nail by unions with nationwide help in money & people
Walker has not endured a tenth of the hell being thrown at Ted Cruz.
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posted on
03/28/2015 10:57:34 PM PDT
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: Ouderkirk
Hes got to say these criminal trespassers need to be deported....all of them.
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Well, that ain’t happening. You will not be voting at all in this Presidential Election because nobody is going to say that all 11 million illegals need to be deported. If you find a candidate who will say that, let me know.
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posted on
03/28/2015 11:17:01 PM PDT
by
Din Maker
(Anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM for Prez in 2016?)
To: SoConPubbie; Drew68
I don’t think anyone caught the sarcasm in that. I know I sure didn’t. When I read it, it thought: “What the hell?” and just blew it off as the rantings of a closet RINO.
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posted on
03/28/2015 11:22:36 PM PDT
by
Din Maker
(Anyone considering Gov. Susana Martinez of NM for Prez in 2016?)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Wed all like to file our taxes by postcard, but most of us realize how impractical that would be, and that it couldnt happen unless the tax code were completely overhauled. Still, its the kind of idea that Cruz specializes in totally unachievable, but sounds good.The person who made this statement might also make the following statement after discovering a painful boil on his/her butt:
"I guess I could see the doctor and have it lanced and packed so it would stop hurting and also heal, but that just sounds good in my head because it is totally unachievable."
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posted on
03/29/2015 4:17:21 AM PDT
by
trebb
(Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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