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Ben Carson’s Gay-Making Prisons, & the Insurgent/Petulant/Crusader Split...
Reason Magazine's Hit & Run Blog ^ | March 4, 2015 | Matt Welch, editor-in-chief

Posted on 03/04/2015 8:26:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Full title: Ben Carson’s Gay-Making Prisons, and the Insurgent/Petulant/Crusader Split Among GOP Anti-Establishmentarians: Why not all 'outsiders' are built the same, and how that might benefit Ted Cruz.
1 posted on 03/04/2015 8:26:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This was a clumsy unforced error by Ben Carson. He’s a great individual, but is not ready for prime time and all their gameplaying with gotcha questions. Ben looks young but he’s 63 years old, and not likely to drastically change the way he expresses himself. At least we see this now, not during the national debates as we did with Perry. If a republican is somehow elected, I hope Carson becomes the Surgeon General of the U.S. then hires a team of aides who will provide all quotations to the media.


2 posted on 03/04/2015 8:33:19 PM PST by lee martell (The sa)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As far as Carson’s concerned with regards to the presidency, the last thing we need is to give the PC crowd a do-over in selecting a black president.

It was tried and it failed... Maybe in a hundred years it might be time to re-visit it.


3 posted on 03/04/2015 8:34:44 PM PST by babygene
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh I see, the Libertarian rag is trashing everyone but Rand Paul and wants us to believe that their brand (which totally falls on its face when it isn’t lying and saying it’s conservative and Republican) is the only way forward?! Um, I’ll pass!


4 posted on 03/04/2015 8:38:40 PM PST by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: lee martell

Someone explain to me how ultra progressive NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio married a militant ex-lesbian and has a child...

and

the gay lifestyle is NOT a CHOICE?


5 posted on 03/04/2015 8:59:45 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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First of all, I think the correct answer to that question, from any presidential candidate, is "Why are you asking me that weird-ass question?" (The reply to which, if given honestly, would be "Because we're hoping you'll say something stupid, ya freak!")

Because newsrooms are overpopulated with homosexuals compared to the general population coast to coast. It is a litmus test question, if you are not down with the homofascists, you must be pinklisted in the media.

6 posted on 03/04/2015 9:01:29 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The best answer he should have given is I don’t know. I wouldn’t spend a lot of time on this subject if I wanted to win.


7 posted on 03/04/2015 9:08:37 PM PST by boycott
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[As far as Carson’s concerned with regards to the presidency, the last thing we need is to give the PC crowd a do-over in selecting a black president.]

You are equating Obama with Dr. Carson?
How dimwitted.


8 posted on 03/04/2015 9:11:50 PM PST by Islander2 (Some of us are here because we are not all there.)
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To: 2banana

Any politician making Ben Carson’s argument risks getting permanently sidetracked in a winless war of rhetoric. That is a method the opposition uses to keep your more significant issues from ever getting discussed. Remember Todd Akin and his ideas about rape? There are some issues that do not have a provable cut and dried answer for everyone. Better to focus on jobs, health and education, city infrastructure, bread and butter issues.


9 posted on 03/04/2015 9:24:44 PM PST by lee martell (The sa)
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To: boycott

Carson jus personal offended by the gay-black comparison. What he says is certainly true, and if anyone would actually investigate, it is probably true that sexual abuse is the trauma that make some many boys homosexual. Cuomo tried to throw out the domination thing. Well, a child is at least as much under the power of adults as prisoners are under stronger ones. But I would just like “Reason” to use methodical doubt to question some of the “science” put out by the mental health industry. It was they who invented homosexuality as a “mental illness” thing. They may have invented the word itself. Unable to “cure it,” they finally decided that the rules against it were just mere conventions, and by dubbing it acceptable, they created a new convention. I mean if man is just an intelligent ape, why punish him for behaving like our distant relatives.


10 posted on 03/04/2015 9:35:00 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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“You are equating Obama with Dr. Carson?”

No, not at all. If we had elected Carson instead of Obama, I’m sure we would be on the right track. However,

Almost anyone would be better than Obama. Obama was chosen because he was black. He had no other qualifications. You are unlikely to get the best person for the job by getting behind someone who comes from a group that is 12% of the population. The black person chosen may very well be the best in the country, but by almost 10 to 1 odds, it’s not...

On that basis it’s almost insulting... And it’s certainly pandering.


11 posted on 03/04/2015 9:35:06 PM PST by babygene
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy, like, writes like he’s, like, 25.


12 posted on 03/04/2015 9:37:39 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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He’s like, the head honcho there and is, uh, 47 years old.


13 posted on 03/04/2015 9:53:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not a lot of females in the male prison Doc.


14 posted on 03/04/2015 10:12:37 PM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I agree with Dr. Carson. Anne Heche — need I say more?

And he’s right. Marriage is a state issue, not a Federal one.


15 posted on 03/04/2015 10:47:37 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2banana

Because we said so!


16 posted on 03/04/2015 10:48:03 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2banana

And that’s just it — the orientation may not be a choice (although I don’t think it’s entirely genetic), but just as a person prone to drug addiction or an alcoholic need not ingest the substances, the person with the gay orientation need not engage in the lifestyle. If they do, that’s their business, but the orientation does not require the lifestyle.


17 posted on 03/04/2015 10:50:15 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: babygene
the last thing we need is to give the PC crowd a do-over in selecting a black president.

Dr. Carson aside for the moment, someone like Alan Keyes would make a great president. I can think of others, such as Allen West, who would be good and happen to be black. That a candidate is or is not black isn't what matters -- it's what the candidate's views and policies are and what he or she would do in office.

18 posted on 03/04/2015 10:52:44 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: RobbyS

Very true and very well said.


19 posted on 03/05/2015 1:13:14 AM PST by boycott
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To: lee martell

He told the truth.


20 posted on 03/05/2015 2:27:42 AM PST by Carry me back (.)
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