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As 2016 race begins, GOP faces its Palin problem
The Washington Examiner's Beltway Confidential ^ | January 25, 2015 | Byron York

Posted on 01/25/2015 4:55:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: AFreeBird

I agree. If Sarah ever ran I can imagine that every speech she makes will be pan by the media and experts but will be liked by the average voter. They use to call Reagan an idiot and were at disbelief that voters saw anything into him


61 posted on 01/25/2015 6:15:54 PM PST by Bigtigermike (R)
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To: huldah1776

She has helped a number of tea party candidates to get elected, so I give her credit for fighting the good fight on that count.

But especially with resigning her governorship after 2 1/2 years, I think she should have been building up her policy wonk and international credentials, which she could easily have done by doing some international energy work for a think tank, writing with depth on issues, and building her gravitas image.

Instead, she and her family have done a half-dozen vapid reality shows, she’s spoken really only to hard-core fans in an increasingly cheeky and casual manner, and of course she hasn’t run for office anywhere.

In short, ironically, she has helped the cause, but she hasn’t helped herself—if she aspires to further leadership in office. I still hope she turns it around.


62 posted on 01/25/2015 6:16:47 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: AFreeBird

Yeah, she’s talking to the low brow, but not to the rest of the country. And, only serious policy-wonk young people watch a speech to this sort of audience. Also, parents trying to be hip never really get across right to their kids and their kids’ friends.


63 posted on 01/25/2015 6:20:00 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I respectfully, disagree. 320 million people in this country, all with differing backgrounds, attitudes and concerns. You’ll never be able to talk to them all at the same time, except on few occasions. The path to the WH is a long and arduous one.

Bitch all you want, but it is what it is. And until we can take back education and a whole lot of other things, that’s the way it’s gonna be. Like it or not.

For the record, I don’t like it. But it’s the environment in which we find ourselves.

We’ve been bitching a lot around here for R’s to play hardball; game time.


64 posted on 01/25/2015 6:41:20 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like Palin.

But we need someone who can decimate Shrillary in the debates.

Ted Cruz.


65 posted on 01/25/2015 6:53:06 PM PST by Signalman
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To: AFreeBird

“Hardball” doesn’t mean stupid, and if you think politically disinterested young people were watching King’s Iowa Summit in January of 2015, I think you’re sorely deluded.


66 posted on 01/25/2015 7:17:08 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: SharpRightTurn

SAdly I heard it and pretty much do agree with this author.....I kept thinking it was because she was tired, because she really did look it. However the more she rambled on, and too much was rambling, I couldn’t deny what was the obvious...and very sad it was so.

I listened to Trumps video later on....and actually reminded me what I would have thought Sarah might have done were she actually running. HE made points along the way and solid ones, yet had the “trump” personlity there with it all.

I know Sarahs base can give her room on this..but really it was that bad.


67 posted on 01/25/2015 7:18:44 PM PST by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Byron, Carly Fiorina couldn’t even beat Barbara Boxer.


68 posted on 01/25/2015 7:25:40 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: TianaHighrider

I can’t agree....

For one who just announced beforehand they were “seriously” considering running for Pres. you would of course expect something substantial and or at least consistant to what we have seen from Sarah when she is serious....her speech was anything but that.

Now it may be with purpose that she was all over the map and clearly not herself as we’ve known......perhaps as a distraction so the media would “chase” her as they did in the past.....but even if that was so she overplayed it much IMO....she came off as a ditz too often and uncertain of her words quite a bit.

Now I am for Cruz...but believed that Sarah might draw some votes to him, which i think she could do. After this speech though, best she let things lay low for awhile....and not appear to be Cruz’s other half or it will hurt him as i see it.


69 posted on 01/25/2015 7:26:25 PM PST by caww
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To: HMS Surprise

...”her media profile is always shining”....

Of course it would...she’s a “star” and well known for obvious reasons....but her following is much about her stardom now rather than a serious candidate. She has her place to be a “King Maker”, as some say, but not if she continues as she did in her recent performance.

I lost some respect for her because of the seriousness of this election all other candidates saw it as...and presented themselves as such. Sarah seemed more like the intermission entertainment unfortunately...but then that might be what they wanted her there for.


70 posted on 01/25/2015 7:31:59 PM PST by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

meanwhile Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton are not called problems.


71 posted on 01/25/2015 7:41:49 PM PST by RginTN
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To: caww

I find it amusing. Note one vote has been cast. Not one debate has yet been concluded... And the fact that there is even a focus at all on a throwaway speech by Palin speaks volumes.


72 posted on 01/25/2015 7:45:36 PM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: RichInOC

None of our current candidates could beat Barbara Boxer in a race for Senate in California.


73 posted on 01/25/2015 7:49:34 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 9YearLurker

Not up on the YouTube culture, eh? Yea, it will cut and pasted back and forth. Just like the MSM likes to do. But it’s out there. And No I’m not delusional, just pragmatic with regard to how things play today.

Am I right? Beats the hell out of me. All I know, is that the game, the rules, the environment has changed.

Fail to understand that, then you’re the delusional one.

Improvise, adapt, and overcome. Get the ball back in your court, and then start repairing the damage Barry has done. Until then, good luck, and we’re screwed.

Sarah, Scott and Ted are the only ones I’ll consider. All the rest can sit on it and rotate.


74 posted on 01/25/2015 7:52:28 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: HMS Surprise

........”the fact that there is even a focus at all on a throwaway speech by Palin speaks volumes.”.......

It simply says they are using her to divert attention away from the serious candidates who can then continue to organize and prepare for their runs without having to deal with the media....and so she “occupies the media”...in that respect she does a good job if they buy it....and it seems thus far they still are.


75 posted on 01/25/2015 7:54:13 PM PST by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To sum it up...Byron York does not like Sarah Palin, and he spoke to people that agree with him, would not matter what she had said to these few.


76 posted on 01/25/2015 7:57:44 PM PST by Chauncey Uppercrust
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
What problem..??..Admit it! You'd rather have "our problem".
then the Political Whores SHRILLary, Fineswine and NAZI Pelosi.

77 posted on 01/25/2015 8:14:47 PM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies. d8^)
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To: onyx; Paladin2; 2ndDivisionVet; LUV W; Diogenesis; gov_bean_ counter; Bigtigermike; ...
As 2016 race begins, GOP faces its Palin problem

Palin is a problem?

That is All.

Wait, What I am Saying? Vince Foster KNEW Hillary, poor Chris Stevens didn't have a chance.

78 posted on 01/25/2015 8:22:52 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Which is arguably a bigger problem for the GOP than Sarah Palin ever could be.


79 posted on 01/25/2015 8:31:22 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

I heard her speak at Western Conservative Summit in 2014. It was a pretty bad speech, she was obviously unprepared and just rambled.

Amongst the political stars, Jindal, West, and Cruz stood out as outstanding speakers at that event.


80 posted on 01/25/2015 8:45:57 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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