Ted Cruz Says He’s Not ‘All That Conservative’ and He Has a Point (The Dems have moved Left)

PJ Tatler ^ | November 25, 2014 | Stephen Kruiser

[2ndDivisionVet]

What he said.

[thorvaldr]

Kennedy would be conservative compared to the current Democratic party.

[Resettozero]

Ibid.

[onyx]

Yep. He’s right.

Plus, he smarter than alll of the demonic-rats and RINOS put together.

[2ndDivisionVet]

[ConservingFreedom]

"I don’t think I’m all that conservative. And it’s interesting. Reagan never once beat his chest and said, “I’m the most conservative guy who ever lived.” Reagan said, “I’m defending common sense principles—small businesses, small towns.”

Common sense is ever less common.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Is it bad to be “all that” conservative?

[txhurl]

And he shutdown the gov over Zerocare, which the public is now starting to realize was a good thing and shows Cruz knows which fish are the most important to fry first.

[Steve_Seattle]

"Kennedy would be conservative compared to the current Democratic party."

In my college days, I associated with a lot of Leftists, and they detested the liberals of the day - Hubert Humphrey, Henry Jackson, LBJ, even Ted Kennedy - almost as much as they detested conservatives. And those are the people who are now running the Democratic Party and running much of the media.

[Buckeye McFrog]

They have moved so far left in the past decade that Hillary is now too conservative to be their nominee IMO.

[ilgipper]

He’s positioning himself and the movement as mainstream. If I said it, I would say not ‘all that right-wing’, but I’ll leave phrasaology to someone who’s walking the walk at the top levels and not nitpik.

I had this discussion with a conservative friend who fancies himself as moderate. I said, tell me which position Cruz has which is out of the norm? I said Cruz and I are basically eye to eye in views, and my ideas are completely mainstream smalller government ideas.

Cruz is starting to position himself as a common sense conservative who is in the exact tradition of Reagan...and he’s correctly fighting the DC conventional thinking of conservatism and Reagan...and revisiting the historical parallels of the late 70s and Reagan’s rise. I like what I am hearing from these meetings. A whole bunch.

[Politicalkiddo]

I think he’s making the point that it’s leftists who are becoming more and more extreme. It’s a consequence of that shift that what were once normal viewpoints, this is, Conservative viewpoints, have become “extreme”.

[VanDeKoik]

I like the angle he’s going for here.

Very smart way to disarm them early and turn it back on them.

[ansel12]

In a personal letter to vice president Nixon in 1960, Reagan described JFK this way.

“I do not include Kennedy’s acceptance speech because beneath the generalities I heard a frightening call to arms. Unfortunately he is a powerful speaker with an appeal to the emotions. He leaves little doubt that his idea of the “challenging new world” is one in which the Federal Govt. will grow bigger & do more and of course spend more. I know there must be some short sighted people in the Republican Party who will advise that the Republicans should try to “out liberal” him. In my opinion this would be fatal.”

“One last thought,— shouldn’t some one tag Mr. Kennedy’s bold new imaginative program with it’s proper age? Under the tousled boyish hair cut it is still old Karl Marx—first launched a century ago. There is nothing new in the idea of a Govt. being Big Brother to us all. Hitler called his “State Socialism” and way before him it was “benevolent monarchy.”

[TexasFreeper2009]

that depends.

Like Cruz, I don't consider myself to be “all that” conservative, and yet I know that I am more conservative than 99% of the people I come in contact with.

But I would never try to force a women to stay at home or wear a burka or equivalent. I would never burn books or participate in a mob lynching. I wouldn't advocate for the death of sodomites, or seriously push for Jane Fonda to be tried for treason, I wouldn't try to force my religious views on others through government coercion, I wouldn't advocate that beating ones wife should be acceptable behavior, I am disgusted by female genital mutilation, I don't think cutting off the hands of thieves is just, or that apostates should be hung, ect, ect..

so the way I see the world I am not “all that” conservative.

[GraceG]

[ Like Cruz, I don’t consider myself to be “all that” conservative, and yet I know that I am more conservative than 99% of the people I come in contact with.

But I would never try to force a women to stay at home or wear a burka or equivalent. I would never burn books or participate in a mob lynching. I wouldn’t advocate for the death of sodomites, or seriously push for Jane Fonda to be tried for treason, I wouldn’t try to force my religious views on others through government coercion, I wouldn’t advocate that beating ones wife should be acceptable behavior, I am disgusted by female genital mutilation, I don’t think cutting off the hands of thieves is just, or that apostates should be hung, ect, ect..

so the way I see the world I am not “all that” conservative. ]

We are all “Constitutional Moderates”, which is scary considering how far the leftists have gone...

[Safetgiver]

or seriously push for Jane Fonda to be tried for treason, ....What? Are you a Communist or something?

[Steve_Seattle]

"I think he’s making the point that it’s leftists who are becoming more and more extreme. It’s a consequence of that shift that what were once normal viewpoints, this is, Conservative viewpoints, have become “extreme”."

On no issue is that more apparent than on gay marriage. The position that Obama took six years ago is now considered so extreme that anyone who expresses it runs the risk of fines, jail time, loss of employment, or loss of one's business.

[rjsimmon]

and yet I know that I am more conservative than 99% of the people I come in contact with.

There's a 78.6% chance that you just made that up...

[VRW Conspirator]

... Democrats are ideologically and geographically at the outer edges of America. They’re literally a fringe party right now.

They always have been. But their infiltration and domination of the schools and media have created a mirage.