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Hawkish GOP donors to Time mag: We’ll stop Rand Paul in the primaries
Hot Air ^ | March 31, 2014 | Allahpundit

Posted on 03/31/2014 2:14:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing surprising here but the quotes are oh so tasty. Including one that comes, secondhand, from Paul himself.

Is that what the last month of Russia-bashing and Tomahawk-praising was all about? Is Rand … “evolving” on foreign policy?

The [Republican Jewish Coalition] conference brings together some of the biggest names — and wallets — in Republican politics, most notably billionaire casino magnate Sheldon Adelson. At a private dinner for VIP donors in an Adelson-owned aircraft hangar holding one of his pair of Boeing 747s, Bush was asked about the growing isolationist wing of the Republican Party and replied there was no such thing — effectively casting Paul out of the fold, according to attendees…

Rand Paul has told top GOP donors that he is “evolving” on foreign policy, particularly when it comes to his positions on Israel, according to several people who have had conversations with him. In recent months he has toned down his opposition to foreign aid — a red flag for most at the RJC — replacing it with a call to end foreign aid to countries that are unfriendly to the U.S. He has also increased his outreach to prominent pro-Israel and neoconservative thinkers and donors to show he is interested in having a dialogue. The U.S. gives more than $3 billion in foreign aid to Israel every year, almost entirely in the form of grants for Israel’s military and defense services…

On the margins of the conference, where attendees heard from four potential 2016 candidates who advocated for a strong American foreign policy and support for Israel, five donors huddled with a reporter pledged to reach into their deep pockets to ensure Paul doesn’t win the GOP nomination.

“The best thing that could happen is Ted Cruz and Rand Paul run and steal each other’s support,” says one of the donors, “but if not, we’ll be ready to take Paul down.”

Adelson is expected to spend untold millions against Paul in the primaries. Those millions didn’t help Newt stop Romney two years ago, but Romney’s team had more financial firepower than Rand’s will to fight back. Rand will try to fight back in a different way: Since his candidacy will be framed as an insurgency against the establishment, he can point to big donors on the other side as a vindication of his “me against the fatcats” populist message. How do you beam that message out to undecided low-information “somewhat conservative” voters, though, when TV and the Internet are full of “Paul will sell out Israel!” attack ads from the other side? As much as I think a Paul run will be fascinating, I worry that we’re going to end up with one of two outcomes. Either he wins the nomination despite it all and some crucial core of GOP hawks, having been convinced that he’s his father’s son on foreign policy, crosses the aisle for Hillary or he loses the nomination and his libertarian base, disgruntled over the attacks on him, decides to stay home. Makes me wonder if Rand is destined to end up on the ticket as VP even if he doesn’t win, and whether that arrangement would be acceptable to anyone. How can a guy who’ll be attacked as a new Charles Lindbergh end up one heartbeat away with the approval of his critics?

The only way to save this marriage, as I said last week, is for Rand to convince his enemies that he’d be acceptable as nominee even if they end up supporting someone else in the primaries. Sounds like that’s … not working out so far. Gulp. Here he is in a video shot two years ago and showcased this weekend by Jen Rubin warning about the perils of different approaches on Iran. Rubin treats his point near the end as Paul “blaming” the U.S. partially for World War II. I think he’s saying merely that sanctions are a form of escalation which can lead to war. If you want to knock him for something about this vid, knock him for the fact that he seems to believe (albeit without explicitly saying so) that war is the absolute worst-case nightmare scenario when it comes to Iran rather than the prospect of a nuclear-armed Iran throwing its weight around the Middle East and beyond. We’ll have that debate next year, I guess.

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TOPICS: Kentucky; Texas; Issues; Parties; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: adelson; cruz; israel; judaism; kentucky; lping; randpaul; randpaultruthfile; romney; ronpaultruthfile; sheldonadelson; tedcruz; texas
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To: Tau Food

and Barack Obama is what now??? the mom jean president?


41 posted on 03/31/2014 3:57:36 PM PDT by Finatic (I ran out of change and have given up on hope. FUBO, I am so sick of your sorry a$$ you effin punk)
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To: Yaelle

Yeeeeeeeaaaahhh...


42 posted on 03/31/2014 4:03:30 PM PDT by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, STANDING WITH RAND.)
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To: PapaNew
His two major flaws are foreign policy and his inability to emotionally touch his audience when he speaks.

You left out his coming out as liberal on gay issues and wanting to change the GOP platform to be more liberal on social issues.

His lying about Reagan was indicative of a deep sharing with Obama's libertarian positions on foreign policy and national defense.

43 posted on 03/31/2014 4:04:18 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Finatic

Well, I’m not talking about issues. Listen to Rand Paul’s voice and the way in which he speaks. That’s all many people ever know about a candidate.


44 posted on 03/31/2014 4:05:48 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So Adelson wants Jeb Bush? Good luck with that! Jeb should do almost as well as Bob Dole did.
45 posted on 03/31/2014 4:08:54 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: ansel12
Notice the Left (and like here, the Right amazingly), will go after the one who gets closest to this key issue that all the MSM, all the Left, and even much of the Right ignores.

You are Exhibit A.

46 posted on 03/31/2014 4:17:24 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

The man is running for president, and worse than ignoring key issues, has adopted the left’s position on them, and is calling on the GOP to move left as a party.

Rand Paul, besides kissing up to the GOPe and becoming a darling of the media, has come out against Reagan’s foreign policy and tried to rewrite it.

We have viable candidates to the right of Paul, evidently you are closer to the media and the left, than you are willing to admit.


47 posted on 03/31/2014 4:25:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
Notice the Left (and like here, the Right amazingly), will go after the one who gets closest to this key issue that all the MSM, all the Left, and even much of the Right ignores.

Exhibit A. If you don't see Exhibit A, it's because he's hiding - in that sniper's nest over there. Watch out for him. He has nothing to offer or contribute. He only attacks. He's part of the problem.

48 posted on 03/31/2014 4:34:06 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

What is it about you that you can’t make a grown up post?

You have no substantive response, to a substantive post?


49 posted on 03/31/2014 4:42:01 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: iowamark

I’ll have the lasagna.


50 posted on 03/31/2014 5:11:55 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: ansel12

You offer nothing to respond to. You offer nothing at all. You’re a hidden sniper. That’s it. You’re part of the problem and a waste of time.


51 posted on 03/31/2014 6:02:34 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Actually, I was very specific in my posts to you.

Rand Paul is a sniper against conservatism, that is why he has taken his position on gay issues and gay marriage that he has, although he is running for a position where he would be affecting federal law on those issues.

His dishonesty on Reagan and foreign policy in that piece he wrote, was disgusting.


52 posted on 03/31/2014 6:07:10 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Moderate Democrat Party is going to lose to the Tea Party. We do not want RINOs, we want people who will stand up for the constitution.

The Moderate Democrat Party is just only better then the Marxists.

53 posted on 03/31/2014 6:27:43 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tweet of the day: As a general rule, if you have to have an aide explain that you still blame Hitler for World War II, you probably made a gaffe.


54 posted on 03/31/2014 9:30:28 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: DallasDeb

Israel doesn’t.

Many American Jews do, especially the red-diaper babies turned “conservatives” who want to get the US involved in middle east issues about which we know less than nothing.


55 posted on 03/31/2014 10:38:52 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The most important thing for conservatives to know about Adelson and the RJC is that they are all fanatical supporters of amnesty and open borders.

It’s their main concern after foreign policy.


56 posted on 04/01/2014 3:18:09 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What do Sheldon Adelson, the RJC, Dick Cheney, Jeb Bush, Jennifer Rubin and neocons in general have in common? They are all fanatical supporters of open borders and amnesty. Paul appears only to be a lukewarm supporter...

The ridiculous thing about the neocon line on Paul is that it is the neocon’s foreign policy, not Paul’s, that is considered crazy and extreme by most Americans, especially the younger people who will be a greater portion of the electorate than ever in 2016.

Neocons are living in bubble to think that someone who advocates a reflexively interventionist foreign policy can win in 2016. At the very least, the GOP must moderate it’s enthusiasm for foreign wars from Bush era levels, or face a large libertarian vote, low turnout and a shortage of energetic young volunteers that guarantee a win for the Democrats no matter how much billionaire funding they get.


57 posted on 04/02/2014 8:33:04 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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