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To: OKCSubmariner; lawdog; Donald Stone
The following is Missy Kelly's comments regarding an article by The American Spectator entitled Six Degrees of William Cohen.

Bottom line:

IMHO, APPC and GIMCorp are CIA fronts. And Cohen is a CIA boy. And since the CIA is an arm of Flagship, Cohen is a Flagship boy.

First, let's talk about the all these "policy" groups, paricularly these Asian-whatever Policy groups. The use of "Asian Policy" groups as fronts for the CIA is historical. The use of "European Policy what-evers" as CIA fronts goes back to post World War II. There have been, and are, dozens and dozens of them. These CIA backed groups hold "seminars" and "get-togethers" bringing "promising young figures from various countries" together with US business interests. They are funded by the CIA, and staffed by CIA connected persons. Students of the Nugan Hand bank failure know that the majority of thses Asian-Pacific "business Groups" are really fronts for the CIA. For information on European CIA front "Policy Groups" etc. see the Bio of John J. McCloy.

And look at the folks involved in APPC: Scowcroft, Carlucci, Douglas Paal, Franklin Lavin: all formerly connected with US Intelligence. And of course, Mr. Stout. Obviously he too is former Intelligence. When he set up International Reporting and Information Systems [IRIS...cute name, huh? These clowns think they are Soooo cute]] it was touted as a 'kind of private CIA"... which clearly shows he had, at the very least, some kind of "in" with the intelligence business, but in all liklihood is just plain old CIA.

Remember reading about the Hong-Kong Trade Development Council, which Beryl Anthony represents? You know Beryl Anthony. He was the brother-in-law of Vincent Foster. The Riady's hold considerable sway in the Hong-Kong business council. And think about James Riady and his involvement with the Asian Pacific American Public Policy Institute, [PAPPI] and "Leadership Education for Asian Pacfics, Inc." [LATimes 7.18.93]

I've seen it too many times to not state emphatically, that, IMHO, this APPC, which Cohen is intimately involved in, is a CIA front.

[Aside: And I HAVE to add, I recently took another look at the list of particpants in Clinton's little "business get-together' aka "business conference", in LA in December 1992, right after his election. What a FASCINATING list, especially with 4 years of new knowledge under our belt. The only thing I will point out at this time is that the ONLY foreigner invited was James Riady.]

IRIS is precisely the kind of company that Henry Kissinger set up: Kissinger & Associates. At Kissinger & Associates...who was on the BCCI side of the equation against law-enforcement...we found people like Brent Scowcroft, and Lawrence Eagleberger, and Alan Stoga. We mustn't forget Alan Stoga. He was a right hand man to Robert Abboud, who was caught up in not just BCCI, but also the S&L scandal and the BNL scandal. [Kissinger & Associates also ties into BNL...on the wrong side, as you may have quessed.] Oh, and Abboud and Stoga tie into Soviet agent Armand Hammer. Abboud was once head of Occidental Petroleum. There's more, but this is enough for now. There was also Sergio Correa da Costa at Kissinger & Associates. He was BCCI's front man down in Brazil. [And just as reminder, BCCI connects to Hubbell, Hillary, and Lippo-boy CJ Giroir through their work on a brief for Stephen's owned Systematics in BCCI litigation in the late 1970's.]

Kissinger & Associates client list included American Express, Coca-Cola, Anhueser Busch, Heinz, Hunt Oil, Chase Manhattan Bank, AIG [American International Group, headed by Maurice Greenberg, one-time chairman of the NY Federal reserve Bank, and one-time candidate to head the CIA], and Freeport McMoran..you know, with massive business concerns in Indonesia. Henry spent years providing "introductions" between foreign governments and his clients. Not low level meetings for henry and his crowd...they went straight to the top, and got audiences with the Presidents, and top dogs. Kissinger also provided "intelligence briefings" for his clients. Henry spent a lot of time brokering business between his clients and China, and Indonesia.

Scowcroft in an earlier period...the same period of the BCCI takeover of Financial General Bankshares, was an important shareholder in in the now defunct National Bank of Washington [NBW]. Another major shareholder was Saudi Arabian Wafic Said. Robert Abboud was a board member of Said's holding company and and a board member of NBW. Abboud ties to Bin Mafouz, [who ties to George Bush Jr. and BCCI, and Chicago, and David Edwards, and Arkansas, and Clinton, etc..and remember that George Bush Jr. connects to Harken. Harken connects to Alan Quasha, to his dad, who was a lawyer for Nugan Hand in the Philipines. Harken also connects to Jackson Stephens through David Edwards, to Talat Othman [to Carlucci through the NCEE] to Bakhsh, to Mike Ameen, to Kamal Adham and to George Soros, the man behind the marijauna laws in California and Arizona.] [BCCI also connects in many ways to Jeb Bush, in Miami, but that's another story.]

A large chunk of NBW stock was held by Paul Laxalt, whose firm represented BCCI in Florida when it all came tumbling down. Other NBW directors where Tommy-the- torts-Boggs...you know, Cokie Roberts brother. Boggs Law firm, Patton Boggs and Blow, represented Sheik Zayed and BCCI. This is where Ron Brown came from: Patton Boggs and Blow.

Not to mention tie ins from there to one Gerald Stern of the DOJ, who ably assisted in thwarting BCCI prosecution by the DOJ. Stern was once general counsel to Occidental Petroleum. [And Occidental leads us to soviet Armand Hammer, who served on the board of FGB, along with a number of other folks who had ties to the US Intelligence Community. Hammer faciliatated Jackson Stephens initial BCCI-backed takeover attempt of the bank. It also leads us to intimate relationships between Hammer and BCCI Front man Ghaith Paharon, but enough for now.]

Oh, and quess what? BCCI's #2 man, Naqvi, was represented by Manatt, Phelps. You know Manatt, Phelps, right? Mickey Kantor's law firm. Involved rather deeply in the Lippogate story.

So what does NBW have to do with anything? Well, they are noted for a number of reasons. Their board members had a plentitude of connections to BCCI, and attempts to thwart the investigations into BCCI. Also, Clark Clifford, who was head of BCCI's First American Bankshares, was also a board member of NBW before going to FAB. And so many of these NBW associates ended up in Bush's administration. And so many of these same people keep popping up the darndest fashion. Over, and over, and over, and over. In July of 1992, on a night "that could have been dubbed BCCI night", Ron Brown then chair of the DNC, brought together a whole plethora of BCCI funded luminaries, including Jimmy Carter, Jesse Jackson, and John Kerry. But hey, why not? The money flowed from BCCI to George Bush and company just as freely. All the people involved on the political side, both Republicans and Democrats, had connections to BCCI hired "fixers."

Anybody noticing a pattern here?

Should I even add that Henry Kissinger was the main force behind the CIA funded UNITA, an African orgainization? You do recall UNITA, right? In the summer of 1992, former bar-bouncer and democratic "advance man", and later White House security dog, Craig Livingstone got a job with UNITA in Angola, training soldiers. I've always wondered how Craig 1. heard about this job opening, and 2. what qualifications got him hired.

Why is it always the same players always involved in the scandals? What other commonalities, interests do these people have?

What would you think if I were to tell you that most of these folks all belonged to a specific organization? Would you behgin to wonder about this organization? I'll let YOU do the research. See for yourself.

But back to IRIS and Stout...Obviously a CIA boy, IMHO. IRIS failed and Stout started GIMCorp.

GIMCorp makes connections for US businesses who want to expand into ovrerseas markets, and represents companies in negoiations with foreign governments.

Then we find out that Stout, who "helped bankroll the [Asian Pacific Policy Center [APPC]] when it started in 1993", shares offices with GIMCorp. Why, they even share the same phone service! Please. This is a classic CIA operation. Hundreds of times I have seen this in my research. The DEA shares an office with a "company" in Burma...connecting doors, and/or a shared secretary. Nugan Hand's Offices in DC just happen to be at the same address as Brigadier General Erle Cocke's 'business office'...in fact in the same office, at the same phone number, sharing the same receptionist. General Singlaub had an office connected by a common door to Charles Keating of the S&L debacle. BCCI shared the office and secretary and phone system in a plethora of "companies" that claimed they had no connection whatsoever to BCCI. Call "Coral Reinsurance" in the Carribean, and a receptionist answers "American Insurance Group"...you know, AIG, Mo Greenberg, possible head of CIA, and NY Fed Chairman. But we are told they aren't connected. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Yeah, right.

Yes, IMHO, it is abundantly clear that APPC is a CIA front, and GIMCorp is also a CIA operation. And ain't it just grand that Mr. Cohen is intimately tied to both.

What a world. Now we have CIA boy Cohen leading the Department of Defense. But hey, we have an underscretary of the Navy, who served under now-dead "commit suicide in the chest" Admiral Boorda, and for whom Sam Nunn ran interefence during his confirmation process, by the name of Dalton. A former Rand analyst, he also is a former Jackson Stephens employee.

What the heck. Jamie Gorelick, who is leaving the DOJ, was #2 there, even though she had zero, zip, nada, experience in law enforcement. However, she had a wealth of spook experience, serving under John Deutch, as a counsel for the Pentagon [Deutch became head of the CIA, as you know]. She was also a BCCI lawyer, representing Altman and Clifford in litigation; and she, herself, has twice been considered to head the CIA. I have long referred to her as CIA-girl.

Need I add that two other lawyers for CIA connected BCCI were none other than Robert Bennett, now lawyer for the President, and one Robert Fiske? You remember Fiske, right? He "investigated" the death of Vincent Foster. He's the clown who informed us that the laws of gravity had been suspeneded on the day Foster died. Fiske declared that Foster died where he was found on a 45 degree slope but the blood flowed UP his face.

You have to consider what the CIA really is, how it was created, why it was created, and most importantly, who created it. Yes, parts of the CIA do indeed serve to collect important intelligence that this nation needs. But that job had traditionally been done, very nicely thank-you, by other intelligence branches under the Department of Defense. The CIA was created by Eastern Establishment, monied interests. Created by the Wall Street crowd, and originally MANNED by the Wall Street crowd, the CIA was created to give select INDUSTRY the power of the US Government to gather intelligence that would affect the Wall Street crowd's businesses. They also came to serve as a covert army for the multinational business interests. Have a mine in South America that may be nationalized? You can't send in the Marines. Mom in Topeka is not going to give you her son's life to save your "ore". No, send in the covert army; the CIA, to run a covert war against the foreign leaders who threaten PRIVATE BUSINESS interests.

The CIA serves not the NATIONAL security but the security of the multi-nationals.

So here we sit, with a CIA boy at the helm of the DoD. Great. Now we can use the big guns. Now we CAN send in the Marines. Now we can spin to the American people from the pulpit of the Secretary of Defense why we have to do this and that, send our troops hither and yon, because it's "in the interests of the nation", spin, spin, spin. Or conversely, minimize the dangers of certain country's actions, which might alarm Americans, and create a 'fuss" which might interfere with US business interests in that country. What we will be told will not necessarily be in the best inetrests of the american people, but rather, the view that is in the best interests of the multi-nationals.

So, we have Flagship officially at the helm, now. Marionnnette Bill Clinton as President [while Vernon Jordan pulls the strings...anybody see the "Clinton map" in yesterday's WSJ...were you surprised to see Vernon Jordan's house so prominently displayed? LOL!], Cohen as Secretary of Defense, Rubin at Treasury, Albright at State, Lake at CIA, yadda, yadda, yadda... and their minions serving in "under-secretary" positions throughout the cabinet. Johns Hopkins Institute of Advanced Policy Studies rules. Certain "politically-uncorrect-to-name" organizations rule. Oliligopolies-R-Us. Get ready to walk across the "Bridge to the 21st Century."

[anyone who wants to know more should read "Crimes of patriots" by Kwitny; "False profits" by truell and Gurwin; "The Chairman" by Kai Bird; "Inside Job" by Muolo, Fricker and Pizzo; for starters]

And as for Martin Schram: IMHO he fits the perfect profile of a journalist who is also a CIA asset...or 'friendly". The bugger has been exposed. [Sure...I don't have voice mail at Scripps-Howard, so I have to rely on the kindness of strangers...you know, those CIA dudes who pick up my bills...]

Way to go Martin. You are a pip. One of these days I am going to do a search on Mr. Schram, and see what kind of disinformation he's been writing all these years.

From: Missy Kelly

From: Jim Robinson (jimrob@psnw.com)
03/16/97 13:07:18 PST
GRAY MONEY - http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a1001317.htm

109 posted on 06/30/2002 9:51:32 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
Your posts are astounding, well written and informative.
Thank you.
115 posted on 06/30/2002 11:16:19 PM PDT by pyx
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To: Uncle Bill; Joe Montana; cake_crumb; floriduh voter; Fred Mertz; nunya bidness; Alamo-Girl; ...
Funny you should mention the firm of Patton & Boggs, LLP.

Yesterday I was looking at the federal bankruptcy court filings for bankrupt Pinnacle Towers (Sarasota,FL.) and Patton & Boggs (pg. 29)is listed as a party in the Pinnacle bankruptcy.

Ironic that Pinnacle made an approx. $8.3 million payment personally to a Mark C. Sapperstein (close personal acquaintance & political crony of Maryland Attorney General, Joseph Curran Jr., Democrat)for certain cellular tower assets which were bundled into a $325 million IPO.

And that five federal prosecutors were caught lying in federal court proceedings in South Florida & Maryland to conceal alleged criminal activities involving organized crime.

Also ironic that one of the federal prosecutors (caught lying) was touted by the Republican Party as a possible replacement for Louis Freeh, as the Director of the FBI.

That the legal counsel for Pinnacle's $325 million IPO was Holland & Knight, whose top attorney, Bill McBride is now running for Governor of Florida on the Democratic ticket.

A large chunk of NBW stock was held by Paul Laxalt, whose firm represented BCCI in Florida when it all came tumbling down. Other NBW directors where Tommy-the- torts-Boggs...you know, Cokie Roberts brother. Boggs Law firm, Patton Boggs and Blow, represented Sheik Zayed and BCCI. This is where Ron Brown came from: Patton Boggs and Blow.

Nothing to see here let's just move on !!!!

117 posted on 07/01/2002 4:10:58 AM PDT by Donald Stone
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To: Uncle Bill
Missy Kelly bump!

(Those were the days ... =)

126 posted on 07/02/2002 9:09:01 PM PDT by Askel5
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