[Paul Ross]

Uh, have you not been reading? Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld OPPOSE GWB's disarmament plan. Rumsfeld more openly than Cheney. The Joint Chiefs of Staff ALL oppose GWB's disarmament plan. Name one solid american conservative defense expert that supports it. NONE do. Even Gaffney, who is going along, says it is merely the best of a really bad deal that GWB insists on implementing come hell or high water. Clearly, it is an unpatriotic and dangerously delusional policy. Don't just stick your head in the sand, because you feel that you could never, ever be betrayed by your patron political saint. It not only is possible, but a fait-accomplice'.

[Chemnitz]

I don't have any political patron saints. I think it is wrong to disarm. I think Bush is wrong on this and also on easing restrictions on Cuba. Please don't jump to conclusions. I said I thought Cheney and Rummy gave good advice. If Bush is too foolish to take it, then we are doomed.