Older Men Make Better Lovers, Psychologist Says

Reuters ^ | 3-16-02

[Jane G]

You make damn good sense. That is a phenomonen that my spouse and I have repeatedly come up against time after time. There are many people who have a vested interest in treating diseases rather than preventing them. Follow the money.

[Capriole]

Not to be unkind, but I have long felt that the primary reason many men have more difficulty having sex as they get older is that they are foced to have sex with women who have also gotten older. Most men I know are turned on by a woman's physical attributes: firm, flat stomach; high, fulsome breasts; a well-turned butt; etc. So, as age takes its toll on the woman, it takes its toll on the man. (And viceversa, I'm certain,)

You're right about the "vice versa part, Elwood. It's not easy for a woman to get turned on by a middle-aged guy with pasty white skin, a pot belly, a saggy backside, and other body parts sagging sadly. Especially when I work so hard to keep my body looking like it did when I was 25.

Oh, boy, am I gonna get flamed for this...

[Jane G]

You are incorrect - it is not natural. You can say NO and do the appropriate testing, and correct type and method of delivery of the hormone testosterone in both men and women.

[Capriole]

Thank God. I am so glad to hear this. I'm resuming dating in my forties and have been scared to death that, as the Viagra commecials suggest, no one in his fifties can manage. I was afraid I'd meet and fall in love with some wonderful man and then find out that he couldn't accomplish anything. It's SO good to hear that's not necessarily the case.

[Slyfox]

it was always one of those things about Bob Dole that I would have preferred not to know

Yeah, what makes celebrities think that every problem they have might help the rest of us. It may have worked when they had breast cancer encouraging women to have breast exams but, for Almighty-sakes I don't care if an old man can't get it up. I really don't like having to think about his weiner. Between Bob Dole's limp weiner and Bill Clinton's bent weiner, I'll tell ya, I DON'T FREAKING CARE.

[realpatriot71]

There are many people who have a vested interest in treating diseases rather than preventing them

While this is true, it doesn't make the problem go away.

If you and your spouse are going back and forth about this why not check your serum hormone levels next time you go in for a physical. If your GP thinks the levels are strange or low he/she can refer you to an endocrinologist. The ednocrinologist will know for sure if there is a real problem and if there is he or she will get you started on some hormone replacement, no big deal

It's not this "strange nefarious plot" that many here on FR seem to think it is. It's not for everyone, but it can help many people, so why not check, especially if you're over the age of 40.

[UB355]

Don't worry, just make sure the issue is addressed in your pre-nup.

[Alas Babylon!]

I wonder how many middle age men could be hired as Chippendale dancers that women would pay money to watch dance?

You mean like this?

[FITZ]

I know an oncologist who is very against those kind of hormones being used because many breast cancers are estrogen dependent.

[FITZ]

LOL!!! How cool!!

[connectthedots]

Yes we last longer. But there is a delay in the "recharge" period. No more encore 20 minutes later.

Speak for yourself.

[Iowa Granny]

And so are we to believe this Doctors been out sleeping around with the old geezers to prove her theory? If that is the case, she must have lucked out and not run into any of the "Blood Pressure Dependant" Crowd.

[RJCogburn]

Now, if you're lacking in say insulin like many diabetics do you take insulin or do you make the same argument that you made? Some people need replacement. The same way that some could use testerone replacement.

Sure, insulin levels when too low cause certain measureable and identifiable changes and replacement corrects or controls them. Lots of diabetics, though, are not too low in insulin, but do not use it properly at the cellular level and some actually have elevated levels.

With respect to testosterone, some men are clearly abnormally low and benfit from testosterone. However, what is abnormal is not clear as there is a large range of normal levels. Use of testosterone has some dangers. It is not a benign thing to use.

[depenzz]

I am 71 and I am single and have been for 20 years. I date a lot and never anyone over 50 (unless she is very well preserved)and mostly between 38 and 45. Every woman I date for any period of time, yes I said, every woman, would marry me in a New York minute. No I'm not macho but I am well preserved and good where it matters.

The article is correct, older men do make better lovers.

Your theory is also correct, can't imagine myself with a woman near my age, ugh.

OK, blast away. LOL

[nickcarraway]

The most pertinent question about this (and no one has asked this yet) is: How old is Dr. Lorraine Boule?

[monkey]

Yes we last longer. But there is a delay in the "recharge" period. No more encore 20 minutes later.

Speak for yourself.

Watching it on videotape doesn't count.

[RJCogburn]

Mr. Cogburn: Read the TESTOSTERONE SYNDROME by Eugene Shippen, M.D

Every 'therapy' and every 'syndrome' has some book written about it by a proponent of the idea. There are similar books with selected scientific references in other popular ideas such as "systemic yeast", "multiple chemical sensitivities" ect. ad nauseum. There is little argument to be made with the "true believers" but others on the fence do well to be cautioned about the faddish movements which seem to occur as often in medicine as anything else.

physically they decline due to lesser and lesser Test. levels

No question we all decline with time. The idea that the decline in men is a result of decreased testosterone levels, though, is unproven. I would not dispute that giving testosterone to men has certain effects that they may like, but there are clearly dangers as well. Further, because an effect is produced does not mean that there was a 'deficiency' as I noted earlier with reference to amphetamines.

For that matter, I just gotta have my morning coffee. Does that mean that I am caffeine deficient?

[GlesenerL]

Ouch!

48, never married, 6-1, 185, good job, still can.

[RJCogburn]

It's better for both to accept this as natural and realize artificial estrogens and testosterones are harmful

I agree. There is a role for hormone replacement, both estrogen and testosterone, in certain circumstances. It is clearly helpful for the hot flashes, night sweats, etc. of menopause. Similarly, testosterone is helpful for men with clearly abnormally low levels from some conditions.

But they are potentially harmful substances and to just suggest that they be passed out nilly-willy is a bad idea, IMHO. Articles such as this one, and imagined conditions such as 'male menopause' do a disservice. Both sides, pro and con, ought to be presented...

[stumpy]

speak for yourself. HA !