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Team picks white man mascot to make point
Greeley Tribune ^ | 10 Mar 02 | Julio Ochoa

Posted on 03/10/2002 7:27:34 AM PST by real saxophonist

Team picks white man mascot to make point

 Story By Julio Ochoa

An intramural basketball team at the University of Northern Colorado called "The Fighting Whities" is turning the tables on the Eaton mascot issue.

Led by Solomon Little Owl, director of Native American Student Services at UNC, the team chose a white man as its mascot to raise awareness and understanding of stereotypes that some cultures endure.

"The message is, let's do something that will let people see the other side of what it's like to be a mascot," Little Owl said. "I am really offended by this mascot issue, and I hope the people that support the Eaton mascot will get offended by this."

The players, made up of a mixture of American Indian, Hispanic and caucasian students, wear white jerseys with the picture of a white man in a suit on the front and the slogan "Every thang's gonna be all white!" printed beneath.

"It's not meant to be vicious, it is meant to be humorous," said Ray White, a Mohawk American Indian on the team. "It puts people in our shoes, and then we can say, 'Now you know how it is, and now you can make a judgement.' "

Judging right or wrong is hard when you don't understand how it feels to be stereotyped, White said.

"We are looking for understanding," he said. "We want change, but you can't force change."

American Indians could go through the general assembly or town meetings to try to change mascots, but the same message might not get through, White said.

"We all live in the same community and want the same things, so it is good to be standing in each other's shoes for a while," he said.

Charles Cuny, an Ogalala Lakota and member of the team, said he went to an American Indian Catholic high school with a mascot called the Red Cloud Crusaders, after a famous chief of the Lakota Indians.

The problem with Eaton's mascot is a matter of respect, he said.

"There are certain words that are accepted and certain words that are unacceptable," Cuny said. "Really a mascot is something that you look up to, and on one hand that is nice, but maybe we could go about it another way."

Having a white mascot is a way to make people more aware of American Indian issues, he said.

"We live in a politically correct society, and sometimes indians get overlooked," he said. "There are so few indians who have clout that there are a lot of things that go unsettled."


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1 posted on 03/10/2002 7:27:34 AM PST by real saxophonist
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To: real saxophonist; aculeus; Orual
Chief No-Can-Jump.
3 posted on 03/10/2002 7:34:30 AM PST by dighton
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To: real saxophonist
these folks have really made a good point ... the "outrage" over Indian mascots is a made-up racial grievance ...
4 posted on 03/10/2002 7:35:27 AM PST by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: mille99
I like it too, and the slogan is kind of catchy.

Haven't these kids heard about the Celtics, the Spartans, the Crusaders and the Vikings?

5 posted on 03/10/2002 7:36:22 AM PST by piasa
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To: mille99
Obviously they've never heard of the Fighting Irish. Or maybe they think that Irish aren't really white.

Anyone have a picture of the logo?

6 posted on 03/10/2002 7:36:43 AM PST by weegee
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To: dighton
LOL!
7 posted on 03/10/2002 7:37:00 AM PST by piasa
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To: piasa
Great point, one that I hadn't thought of. OK, FReepers, any other white-based mascots out there?
8 posted on 03/10/2002 7:37:27 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: mille99
"The Fighting Whities".....I like it! Tell me again why we're supposed to be offended?

Sounds like a blast. Maybe they should have used "Honkey victims" and had a white person being mugged.
9 posted on 03/10/2002 7:39:21 AM PST by balrog666
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I believe the LaSalle "Explorers" would also qualify. Wasn't LaSalle a French explorer?
10 posted on 03/10/2002 7:39:43 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Knights
11 posted on 03/10/2002 7:40:09 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: real saxophonist
"The message is, let's do something that will let people see the other side of what it's like to be a mascot," Little Owl said. "I am really offended by this mascot issue, and I hope the people that support the Eaton mascot will get offended by this."

LOL LOL is anyone here offended? Well I guess some liberal may pretend to be offended to help them make their point..Personally I like it! White men may not be able to jump..but they can fight a Revolutionary war and a Civil war This seems a compliment to me. White men do fight for what they believe in..they do not whine !

12 posted on 03/10/2002 7:41:02 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: real saxophonist
Perhaps Mr. White Owl, ought to check out the BOSTON CELTICS or the NOTRE DAME FIGHTING IRISH!Those logos feature white guys, yet nobody is wetting the beds over this. As for living in a politically correct society, the concept should've died on Sept 11th. No Mr. White Owl, PC is a fraud, and you are being played like a grand piano.
13 posted on 03/10/2002 7:42:15 AM PST by mlibertarianj
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
West Virginia Mountaineers. Virginia Cavaliers.
14 posted on 03/10/2002 7:42:27 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: piasa
Don't even get me going about the Hofstra University Flying Dutchmen.
15 posted on 03/10/2002 7:42:31 AM PST by socal_parrot
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Quakers.
16 posted on 03/10/2002 7:42:58 AM PST by JamesWilson
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To: dighton
LOL!
17 posted on 03/10/2002 7:43:16 AM PST by Pokey78
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To: mille99
Count me in. I like it too.
18 posted on 03/10/2002 7:43:19 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: real saxophonist
I am so outraged. I am truly vexed. And hopping mad.

What were we talking about again?

"It puts people in our shoes, and then we can say, 'Now you know how it is, and now you can make a judgement.' "

Well, yeah. Maybe the members of this team will learn a lesson when huge mobs of white people fail to protest.

19 posted on 03/10/2002 7:43:21 AM PST by counterrevolutionary
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To: real saxophonist
The players, made up of a mixture of American Indian, Hispanic and caucasian students, wear white jerseys with the picture of a white man in a suit on the front and the slogan "Every thang's gonna be all white!" printed beneath.

If they really wanted to strike fear into the hearts of their opponents they should have made them white lawyers.

20 posted on 03/10/2002 7:43:38 AM PST by DouglasKC
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