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To: Goblins
Guess you're not a history buff, or you don't come from a church with 2000 years behind it.
Here's a summary from a favorite article of mine - "Surveying the long history of the Islamic assault on the Christian world, it is sobering to consider how close the latter has come to annihilation on more than one occasion. In the initial offensive during the first decade after Muhammad's demise, Christendom lost its birthplace in the Levant, with the front of the East Roman Empire only being stabilized at the approaches to Asia Minor. Meanwhile, the Arab armies swept west from conquered Egypt, subduing the whole north coast of Africa and crossing into Visigothic Spain in 711. They were finally stopped by the Franks under Karl the Hammer at Poitiers in 732, the centenary of Muhammad's death. The conversion of the Turkish tribes to Islam in the ninth century lent jihad renewed impetus; the erosion and final collapse of East Roman power opened the eastern door to Europe in the 14th century, and the Ottomans were turned back only at the gates of Vienna in 1683. The site of the first high-water mark at Poitiers and the later one at Vienna are only some 700 miles apart -so narrow has been Christendom's brush with extinction!"
from here

Just what do you think the islamic militants are seeking, anyway> Extinction of Christianity is high on their list. Perhaps you are not aware that most of the lands of the middle east were once almost entirely Christian.

651 posted on 02/22/2002 9:58:55 AM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Karl the Hammer

A/K/A Charles Martel, (Yours Truly), reporting for duty! :-)

See #466 above - I like to point out that the defeat of the Ottoman Turks at Vienna happened some eight years *after* the British colonies in North America began to turn away from the crown (Bacon's Rebellion, 1675). Had the Turks not been turned back in 1683, one wonders what events would've followed and whether America would even exist in any form that we would recognize.

These are not mere "What If" games; they serve to illustrate that these points in history DO matter to us and that we are not somehow detached from those past conflicts.

The rock-worshippers seem to grasp the fact that North America (the U.S. in particular) is where Western Christian civilization was spread to most recently. That's why we're number one on their "Great Satan" list.

657 posted on 02/22/2002 10:37:19 AM PST by Charles Martel
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