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Probably already said a zillion times on Free Republic, but most of these people you're talking about are barbarians because they're backwards, not because they're Muslim. They may even be backwards partially because of their religion, but I believe time will bear out that not all Muslims are barbarians, and simply being Muslim does not make one a barbarian. Just like murders in the name of Christianity have declined sharply over the past five hundred years, the same will happen in the Muslim world in time as modern justice and law make their way through Asia.

That being said, it makes a lot of sense to look out for backwards mother#@$#@ from other nations and plan to deal with them just like you would in certain parts of the United States with some of our own uncivilized countrymen.

565 posted on 02/22/2002 12:33:02 AM PST by tgiles
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I used to agree with this assessment, based upon my personal acquaintances with individual Muslims. But the stats have finally beaten down my personal prejudices. There's too strong a correlation between Islam and violent behavior. It cuts across races, cultures and geography. For example: Filipino Muslims are racially identical to the Christians, but their average demeanor is worlds apart. Consider European Muslims (in the Balkans). Why are they so different from other Europeans?

I know for a fact that individual Muslims can be the best people on earth. But I can't escape the conclusion that Muslim societies are, almost without exception, the worst on earth, almost as if they exerted a perverting influence on the people in their midst.

I know an 80 year old man who was an ex-SS troooper, and he is decent. When you think about it, the law of averages guarantees that some individual Nazis were actually good men. But Nazism as a whole was wholly without redeeming features. I suspect this is the same with Islam. There are indivually worthy Muslims, but Islam as a whole is condemning itself daily, by its behavior, by its dysfunction and by its brutality. I'd like to think well of all religions, but Islam is really making me stretch.
566 posted on 02/22/2002 1:18:28 AM PST by wretchard
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Probably already said a zillion times on Free Republic, but most of these people you're talking about are barbarians because they're backwards, not because they're Muslim. They may even be backwards partially because of their religion, but I believe time will bear out that not all Muslims are barbarians, and simply being Muslim does not make one a barbarian.

Seems like the terrorists make widespread use of computers (people have been seized with laptops that carried attack plans, abandoned houses have had PCs with more attack plans, they use cybercafes and email accounts to correspond, they shift cell phone # usage so they can't be traced), they learn to fly planes, they train in elaborate manuevers and video the exercises. What makes you think that these people are somehow backwards?

569 posted on 02/22/2002 1:26:30 AM PST by weegee
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, but most of these people you're talking about are barbarians because they're backwards, not because they're Muslim.

Their societies are backwards because they are Muslims. Arab Christians and Arab Muslims come from the same country but there is a world of difference between the groups. The Middle East had a more advanced culture until Islam stopped and reversed progress.

595 posted on 02/22/2002 4:54:05 AM PST by FITZ
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