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Expert: Anthrax Suspect I.D.'d
The Times (New Jersey Online) ^ | February 19th, 2002 | Joseph Dee

Posted on 02/19/2002 6:50:16 AM PST by wimpycat

Edited on 07/06/2004 6:37:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Mitchell
Also keep in mind that the disinformation plan is in full swing now. I wouldn't believe any stories on the subject at this point, even those which implicate Iraq. The federal govt. has also been known to bring false criminal charges to support coverups and disinformation campaigns.
181 posted on 02/22/2002 9:14:52 AM PST by Thud
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To: Thud
I wouldn't believe any stories on the subject at this point, even those which implicate Iraq.

I think the full story is likely to be more complicated than a simple position that says that Iraq is the one responsible. I've wondered for some time if there might not have been a behind-the-scenes alliance prior to 9/11, involving perhaps Iran, Iraq, and elements in Pakistan, as well as al-Qaeda. There's growing evidence of Iranian involvement in terrorism. And Pres. Bush's axis-of-evil speech suggests that he has evidence of such an alliance; I think we should take that speech at face value, not as some exaggerated metaphor. [Just speculating, I also wonder what role China might play in all this.]

182 posted on 02/22/2002 12:55:16 PM PST by Mitchell
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To: Mitchell; Dark Wing
Watch this story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/633439/posts

If the Fort McPherson incident really is anthrax, it will be interesting watching the feds spin about it.

183 posted on 02/22/2002 2:32:22 PM PST by Thud
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To: francisandbeans;wimpy cat
It is entirely possible that it was an inside job AND Radical Islamic Terrorism.

The RIT's (Radical Islamic Terrorists) have been around for many years (the WTC garage bomb was in 1993), and apparently they have been instructed to blend in.

It may be that the guilty party was (is?) publicly a gov't scientist, hired during the Clinton years (when diversity had priority over security), while secretly being a RIT.

I've often worried about insiders fitting this category: Appearing to be average blending-in Joes, while secretly being RIT's. We've all heard rumors about plumbers in the WTC sabotaging the building(s) before the Attack. Who knows how many RITs are out there?

Remember the threat about airplanes falling from the skies? I doubt that it is passengers who are the real threat.

May the Lord God watch over us all -- and prevent the day when the RIT's decide to make another well-coordinated strike.

All, please remember the words of Mr. Sinatra: Be Awake, Be Alert, Be Aware!!

184 posted on 02/24/2002 5:17:39 PM PST by Museum Twenty
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To: Linda Liberty
Bingo.
185 posted on 02/24/2002 5:24:17 PM PST by JusticeLives
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To: Thud
Also keep in mind that the disinformation plan is in full swing now. I wouldn't believe any stories on the subject at this point, even those which implicate Iraq. The federal govt. has also been known to bring false criminal charges to support coverups and disinformation campaigns.

It looks like you hit the nail on the head with your remark that the disinformation plan was in full swing. Now we're back to the Milwaukee scientist (who may or may not be involved, but, if so, he didn't act alone). It will be interesting to see what the spin will be.

186 posted on 02/24/2002 6:47:15 PM PST by Mitchell
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To: Mitchell
I just saw the story and expect the feds to file charges. Keep Wen Ho Lee in mind.
187 posted on 02/24/2002 9:22:12 PM PST by Thud
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To: Mitchell
I think the full story is likely to be more complicated than a simple position that says that Iraq is the one responsible.

My prediction: when the truth is known, the story will be very simple. Saddam Hussein conceived and orchestrated the destruction of the WTC, cultivating an alliance with bin Laden to recruit Muslim fanatics for the suicide mission. The anthrax is from Saddam, designed to deter the US from pointing the finger at Iraq and retaliating for the attack. Al-Qaeda are basically out-of-the-loop on the anthrax, since the technology to make the aerosolizable anthrax sent to Daschle is currently beyond them. Iran has nothing to do with the anthrax, nor does any other Middle-Eastern government or terrorist organization.

Bookmark this thread, and let's revisit this once the source of the anthrax is publicly identified by the Bush Administration.

188 posted on 02/24/2002 9:31:24 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan
I said: I think the full story is likely to be more complicated than a simple position that says that Iraq is the one responsible.

You replied: My prediction: when the truth is known, the story will be very simple. Saddam Hussein conceived and orchestrated the destruction of the WTC, cultivating an alliance with bin Laden to recruit Muslim fanatics for the suicide mission. The anthrax is from Saddam, designed to deter the US from pointing the finger at Iraq and retaliating for the attack. Al-Qaeda are basically out-of-the-loop on the anthrax, since the technology to make the aerosolizable anthrax sent to Daschle is currently beyond them. Iran has nothing to do with the anthrax, nor does any other Middle-Eastern government or terrorist organization.

You could be right -- I don't think there's really isn't enough evidence to go on to tell yet exactly who in Asia is behind either the Sept. 11 attack or the anthrax mailings.

But there is documentary evidence that the Pakistani nuclear scientists were working on anthrax bombs in Afghanistan. Iran demonstrably has a variety of terrorist connections (in addition to the well-publicized shipment of arms to the Palestinians and their support for Hezbollah over the years, there was just a report that Iran was responsible for the Lockerbie airplane bombing).

I don't think that the Bush administration, including even Powell, would have gone with the "axis of evil" approach unless they had evidence of an alliance arrayed against us. (If there were no such alliance, it would have been counterproductive for us to push Iraq and Iran together, creating an "axis" where none existed.)

I also wonder about China's role, if any, in all this.

192 posted on 02/25/2002 8:43:53 AM PST by Mitchell
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To: Dark Wing
See my No. 187.
193 posted on 02/25/2002 9:46:42 AM PST by Thud
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To: Thud
The Ft. McPherson anthrax was reportedly a hoax.

I do agree with your point about Federal disinformation campaigns. The Feds showed with the initial AMI Anthrax outbreak that they will lie at the first opportunity when the subject of bioterrorism is concerned. HHS Sec. Tommy Thompson purposely lied about the nature of the initial anthrax infections (intestinal, via drinking water, rather than pulmonary via anthrax spores) to buy the Feds time that they woefully misused. As the dead postal workers later showed with a bullet.

As for filing false charges, the FBI has in fact fabricated evidence and covered up further murders by a contract killer in the Federal witness protection program.

Rep. Dan Burton is being stonewalled by the Bush Administration on this particular case at the mement, if I am remembering various news reports correctly.

194 posted on 02/25/2002 10:23:59 AM PST by Dark Wing
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To: Dark Wing
It's too bad the feds are backing away from the indictment of a designated scapegoat in this matter.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20020225-81344518.htm
vs.
http://www.wjla.com/news/showstory.hrb?f=n&s=32382&f1=nat

I was hoping we could start a judging contest with point awards for Sincerity, Style, Plausbility, Originality, etc.

"Rush, I think Plato Cacheris deserves more than 5.4 for sincerity on his first press conference given that John Ashcroft got a 5.5 when announcing the indictment last month."

195 posted on 02/25/2002 12:26:16 PM PST by Thud
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To: Black Jade
Bump.
196 posted on 02/25/2002 12:30:55 PM PST by mafree
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