Orthodox Jews Mass Protest Against the State of Israel

natureikarta ^ | 12 February, 2002

[Sam_Watkins]

Estimated 20,000 Orthodox Jews demonstrating on Tuesday February 12th, in front of the Israeli Consulate in New York City, organized by the Central Rabbinical Congress of USA and Canada, to voice their opposition to the existence of the state of Israel, their suppression of religion and brutal treatment of religious people.

The posters read as follows: [L-R] "Israel" dos not represent world Jewry
Rabbinical leaders fought Zionism since its inception
Authentic Rabbis always opposed Zionism and the State of Israel
Zionism have no right to rule over any part of the holy land
No doubt! Herzl's dream was a catastrophe for Jews
Zionism stole the name of Jews
"Israel" dos not represent world Jewry
Jews mourn 53 years existence of "Israel"
True Jews will never recognize Israel
Torah Jewry is united against Zionism & the State of Israel
Zionist ideology opposes the Creator
Oh No! Zionism will never succeed
We are against "Israel" because we are Jews
Zionism and Judaism are extreme opposites
Background sign: Israeli government: stop oppressing religious Jewry in the State of Israel

[Dales]

There are assholes of every persuasion, set of religious beliefs, skin color, you name it. Evil is and evil feeds on people of all types.

But to my eyes, the only subhuman ones are the bigots of the world.

(Askel, if you were flagging me to see if I think this was an a propos place for your point, then yes, this would be an example of where I would think it would be more than fitting, and well deserved).

[xvb]

Since the beginning of time, this thread must be the most attention this group of people have ever gotten. Druids are better known and about as mainstream.

[jo6pac]

Nice post.

Thanks.

[boltfromblue]

No human is subhuman. Your excuse to attack Muslims as a means of diverting attention from your crimes is subhuman. In many older cultures from which we learn great healing wisdom, such as Hindu, there has been keeping of children for sex, an eye for an eye in Judeo-Christian biblical teachings, much like the chopping off of hands for thievery, and in the U.S. currently there are many cases where the protective, judicial branches of our government treat women very badly, so I would not single out Muslims for your 'ain't it awful' diatribes. Certainly killing Muslims because you have pronounced them sub-human as a convenient label to allow you to distort the truth that those In Israel's government are performing mass exterminations, and many here are fantasizing hideous deaths for Muslims rather than healing their own hurt from German, not Palestinian attempts to murder Jews, makes you as bad if not worse for raising the ante, with not even the justification Palestinians have to fight against you for taking their land. Strict prohibitions from harming others might be more helpful to a society than the anyone can do anything to anybody culture we have, including extermination.of Palestinians fighting for their land.

[Prodigal Daughter]

Really? You may not have heard. My mother was named Fatima after my grandpa's sister left back in the old country, Syria. I don't care if the person proclaims themself to be a Muslim, a Hindu, a born again Christian, or an alien from Mars. Someone who throws a bomb at a little girl's bat mitzvah, somebody who hijacks a plane with children on board and crashes into the WTC, and someone who severs the head of a journalist is an evil piece of flesh. For you to call me a bigot is one thing, for you to say bigotry is worse than terrorism is pretty scary. Don't bother flagging me anymore, I'll just ignore you.

[Prodigal Daughter]

Maybe you're Palestinian, so you probably know that story going around for years in Palestinian circles about how Palestinians deserve the land more because they love it more, so they want all the land, and just like King Solomon gave the baby to the mother who didn't want to cut the baby in half, Palestinians are fighting for all of Palestine with no Jews on the land and Allah will give the land to those who love it more like Solomon gave the mother the baby. Yeah, my Palestinian Arabic teacher was the first to tell me that warped theological gem.

[boltfromblue]

I reply to your two latest messages. I certainly never flagged you, only replied before.

Any people who surreptitiously take advantage of another people's goodwill under the guise of wanting to farm and are generously given that opportunity have been doubly betrayed by these people taking their land. No part of this baby ever truly belonged to Jews, so no divisions should be considered acceptable. And just as Arafat allows young men to fight and young boys, yes, did enter the fray as they saw the harm done to their people and could fight as well as any boys in our history did (I don't suppose you saw The Patriots) I too am willing to back these people to fight for their native land. These people are without free use of their own land and deserve to have it back, and it would not kill Israelis to evacuate as they should, as it would the baby. Commercial enterprise is not what makes a country valuable, as the U.N. and U.S. seemed to think when they turned it over to Israel and Israel took much more. I think the Egyptian princess who raised Moses out of compassion also made a mistake with good intentions. For this is the land of Near-East people, resonating for them with memories of their forefathers, not a land for invaders, twice over. I suppose you would ask AZ or Argentina to share half of its land because they were once foolish enough to consider making a Jewish state there, if Jews kvetched enough.

[Prodigal Daughter]

Okay, I read your reply. Do you honestly believe those Palestinian women want their little boys to go face tanks? And do you honestly believe that Palestinians can't get a hold of weapons so they have to resort to little boys throwing rocks for self defense? You haven't seen the photos stashes of weapons in the Middle East? And do you honestly believe those little kids wake up in the morning thinking, "I can't wait to get out there and throw some rocks!" No, they live under fear and oppression FROM the PLO, PNA and others, and with 50 plus Palestinian journalists arrested by the PNA, we don't get to hear the fearful Palestinians' side very often, but if you search the news archives, (USAToday?) you'll find some very brave Palestinian women trying to get the word out that they are FORCED to send their little boys to the battleline and stay quiet about it or be killed. No piece of real estate is more valuable to a mother than her little boy, but CNN would have you believe otherwise. Keep watching it, keep believing it.