Annan says 'globalization' best hope to cure worlds problems

UN

[GeronL]

A lot of people seem to think civil society means regular people, as if we'd be voting for a UN People's Assembly or something.

I definitely didn't mean to talk down to anyone, I just get carried away when the UN is the topic.

[philman_36]

I definitely didn't mean to talk down to anyone, I just get carried away when the UN is the topic.
Hehehe...carried away when the UN is the topic...I'm sure you've found that we share something in common then.
I hope you enjoy the FYIs.

[GeronL]

I wish I had found you to help me when I was trying to get people interested in my little website... I gave up around Sept 2000

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[GeronL]

and I like FYI's, I always like more information.

[philman_36]

I gave up around Sept 2000
I've become a perpetually cynical man...
...those cynical men who say that democracy cannot be honest and efficient -- F. D. Roosevelt

History belies you FDR! Democracy is neither honest or effecient!

[philman_36]

I always like more information.
That last reply may be more information than you want to know. MITYWTK

[BlackbirdSST]

d'ya think an american, even as pro-globalization as clinton, is ever going to be sec-gen of the UN? The third-world/EU hatred of America is very non-partisan that way; they hate us all. They would take bubba on bended knee, guaranteed. Blackbird.

[Thinkin' Gal]

"civil society"

Great catch! Same playbook indeed. It's this same civil society evil and wicked generation which is making plans for a just final solution to the problems in the Middle East. Who is defined as uncivil? I'd say that American Christians and Israel are on the top of the list.

[gjenkins]

"Have you heard the leaders of either policy opposing the UN drive towards global 'governance'?"

Sadly no. The problem is that in the ideal, there should indeed be a set of principles which are objectively true for all people and cultures ... and thus they should be enforced for all people and cultures. If we truly stood for that (which I think we once did), then there would be reason to enforce those principles. As it is, we are exporting our own contradictory ideas as well as accepting the myriad of contradictory ideas the rest of the world wants to foist upon us.

[2sheep]

Who is defined as uncivil? I'd say that American Christians and Israel are on the top of the list.

At some point in time we thought that the world could be influenced for good.  It seems that the globalists want Group Think and "consensus" for their agenda and to ENFORCE their brand of "peace and safety" upon us.  Oh, for the days we enjoyed the right to be left alone.

[gjenkins]

"What is the point?"

I agree with you. I think of it in roughly these terms ... We are thinking people. We have to choose our own values. Reality tells us the consequences of our choices, and we weigh the consequences in order to make our choices. There are strings attached to every decision we make (including charity). If one wants to give charity, I think that the most important thing is to make sure that the strings are still attached ... that the reciever understands where the charity came from and what is expected of them if they accept it.

Every step requires thought and understanding in the giver and the reciever. Nationalized/Internationalized charity does not.

[Torie]

The programs the NEA adopts are far worse than anything UNESCO could come up with. As for the balance, I really don't see much influence by the UN in internal US affairs. I do know that when the US demands UN cooperation in one of its serious foreign policy initiatives, it gets it typically. The US is far less fragile than you think.

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks for the cordial comments Torie. Obviously we disagree on this topic, but's nice to disagee in an amicable manner. Take care.

[DoughtyOne]

I should address the less fragile comment directly. At the current time the US is less fragile than my comments intimate. But there are far deeper problems than most people realize.

I do feel the US is coming into direct conflict with world agencies such as the WTO. I believe the ultimate goal of the UN is diametricly opposed to the goals of the United States. When the Euro is up and firmly in place the US could stand to lose a whole lot by UN support of the Euro as opposed to the Dollar. I don't put it past the UN to submarine us whenever it suits them.

We will have to agree to disagree. Later...