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Fewer Clouds Found In Tropics: NASA Scientists Discover New Evidence Of Climate Change
www.sciencedaily.com ^ | 02-01-2002

Posted on 02/01/2002 7:53:08 AM PST by boris

Source: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center (http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/)

Date: Posted 2/1/2002

Fewer Clouds Found In Tropics: NASA Scientists Discover New Evidence Of Climate Change

After examining 22 years of satellite measurements, NASA researchers find that more sunlight entered the tropics and more heat escaped to space in the 1990s than in the 1980s. Their findings indicate less cloud cover blocked incoming radiation and trapped outgoing heat. "Since clouds were thought to be the weakest link in predicting future climate change from greenhouse gases, these new results are unsettling," said Dr. Bruce Wielicki of NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. Wielicki is the lead author of the first of two papers about this research appearing in the Feb. 1, issue of "Science."

"It suggests that current climate models may, in fact, be more uncertain than we had thought," Wielicki added. "Climate change might be either larger or smaller than the current range of predictions."

The observations capture changes in the radiation budget-the balance between Earth's incoming and outgoing energy-that controls the planet's temperature and climate.

The previously unknown changes in the radiation budget are two to four times larger than scientists had believed possible. The reason why and the degree to which it changed are surprising scientists and create a powerful new test for climate models.

Inspired by this puzzle, a research group at NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) developed a new method of comparing the satellite observed changes to other meteorological data.

"The new method is a conceptual breakthrough in how we analyze data," said Anthony Del Genio, a scientist at GISS and co-author of the companion paper.

"What it shows is remarkable," said Wielicki. "The rising and descending motions of air that cover the entire tropics, known as the Hadley and Walker circulation cells, appear to increase in strength from the 1980s to the 1990s. This suggests that the tropical heat engine increased its speed."

The faster circulation dried out the water vapor that is needed for cloud formation in the upper regions of the lower atmosphere over the most northern and southern tropical areas. Less cloudiness formed allowing more sunlight to enter and more heat to leave the tropics.

In response, several of the world's top climate modeling research groups agreed to take on the challenge of reproducing the tropical cloud changes. But the climate models failed the test, predicting smaller than observed variability by factors of two to four. "It's as if the heat engine in the tropics has become less efficient using more fuel in the 90s than in the 80s," said Wielicki. "We tracked the changes to a decrease in tropical cloudiness that allowed more sunlight to reach the Earth's surface. But what we want to know is why the clouds would change."

The results also indicate the tropics are much more variable and dynamic than previously thought.

"The question is, if this fluctuation is due to global climate change or to natural variability," said Del Genio. "We think this is a natural fluctuation, but there is no way to tell yet."

While the current 22-year radiation budget record--the longest and most accurate ever compiled--is still too short to pinpoint a cause, the newly discovered change acts as a standard by which to measure future improvements in cloud modeling.

"A value of this research is it provides a documented change in climate and a target for climate models to simulate," said Del Genio.

Editor's Note: The original news release can be found at http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NasaNews/2002/200201317366.html

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But precipitate action and policies based on uncertain models are still the "solution" proposed to a non-problem...

--Boris

1 posted on 02/01/2002 7:53:09 AM PST by boris
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To: boris
Either larger or smaller...
Glad they pinned that down.
2 posted on 02/01/2002 7:58:22 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: boris
No doubt a natural phenomena which will be turned into the next Greenpiss fund raising effort. If approached, ask them "why" the temperature of Mars is rising.
3 posted on 02/01/2002 8:01:00 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I just want to know why the ice storm we were supposed to get yesterday was just drizzle....I went through the trouble of buying salt and a new ice scraper....I can only imagine what these "scientists" are going to suggest I do with THIS news?
4 posted on 02/01/2002 8:03:36 AM PST by marktuoni
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To: boris
Crap. Scientists used to be scientists. Now they are political tools.
5 posted on 02/01/2002 8:03:44 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: boris
Climate change might be either larger or smaller than the current range of predictions.

This neatly sums up the problem with long-range models.
Minor tweaks in assumptions produce wild swings in results over the long run.
These models are LOADED with weak assumptions and bad data.
As any computer modeler can tell you, it's trivial to get a model to produce the results you want.
These climate models are a waste of time and tax money.

MI
6 posted on 02/01/2002 8:03:53 AM PST by My Identity
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To: boris
I've looked at clouds from both sides now
from up and down and still somehow
it's clouds illusions I recall
I really don't know clouds at all.

Couldn't resist

<];^)

7 posted on 02/01/2002 8:07:10 AM PST by js1138
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To: Minuteman23
Scientists used to be scientists. Now they are political tools.

Amen. Go to a university or Government lab sometime and listen to these guys get hysterical over the idea of cutting tax-funded research. The love of money does indeed corrupt.

MI
8 posted on 02/01/2002 8:07:51 AM PST by My Identity
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To: boris
What a bunch of crap! I live in Panama and we have had a great, great rainy season (rainy season starts about the begining of April and lasts through end of December) which means bunches and bunches of rain. Lots of clouds = lots of rain.
9 posted on 02/01/2002 8:14:08 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: My Identity
After we get rid of all of the lawyers then we can go after these maladroits.
10 posted on 02/01/2002 8:14:13 AM PST by Digger
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To: boris
After examining 22 years of satellite measurements, NASA researchers find that more sunlight entered the tropics and more heat escaped to space in the 1990s than in the 1980s. Their findings indicate less cloud cover blocked incoming radiation and trapped outgoing heat.

Huh?

11 posted on 02/01/2002 8:14:54 AM PST by randog
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To: Minuteman23
some of us still are scientist. what I do find alarming is the number of scientist that cannot or will not critically review papers that dovetail with their beliefs.
12 posted on 02/01/2002 8:17:53 AM PST by fuente
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To: randog
HUH?

Something about clouds contributing to the greenhouse effect, preventing heat from being reflected back out into space. Whatever the detils, it goes to show that climate models do not predict accurately.

13 posted on 02/01/2002 8:18:41 AM PST by js1138
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To: boris
Climate change might be either larger or smaller than the current range of predictions."

What's the difference between saying the above and saying absolutely nothing? I could make statements like the above on just about any topic and be always correct. Will I get paid for it. Will I be viewed as an expert.

14 posted on 02/01/2002 8:20:48 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: fuente
Those of you who are "still scientists" do not have anything to do with government sponsored research, or you do not have your own political ax to grind. It's a shame that more and more "scientists" are falling into one or both of those categories. The reason some will not review papers that dovetail with their beliefs is the old "if it doesn't benefit me, I don't want to bother" idea. They might use the information but the won't give a "review" the time of day.
15 posted on 02/01/2002 8:23:52 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: boris
"Climate change might be either larger or smaller than the current range of predictions."

Government funded science needs constant evolving panic in order for the funding to continue. This scientist has not made any mention of human induced warming, but others will do it for him. I guarantee that these government funded scientists will find (after further funding) that the effect is "larger", which of course, will require more funding.

Of course everyone is expected to ignore data that clearly shows that solar activity is the cause.

16 posted on 02/01/2002 8:24:23 AM PST by kidd
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Will I get paid for it. Will I be viewed as an expert.

That depends on whether you get a government grant for it or not. If you are spending taxpayer money you are by definition an expert, since NASA NIH, etc wouldn't give grants to just anyone. Try writing a grant proposal and see. If you put enough gobldygook and political correctness in it you probably will get a little splash from the taxpayer filled hog trough that academics are accustomed to swilling from.

17 posted on 02/01/2002 8:27:06 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: boris
Yes once again the (Its getting too warm/Its getting too cold) guys at NASA are in a flutter. If I were running the country these people would be relieved of their jobs.The people supervising these people would also be sacked.In fact it would be nice if we could eliminate these people by sending them to a work colony on the moon.
18 posted on 02/01/2002 8:31:07 AM PST by claptrap
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To: boris
"Climate change might be either larger or smaller than the current range of predictions."

Alert the media!!!!

19 posted on 02/01/2002 8:33:37 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: from occupied ga
Any goverment "study" seems to find exactly what the people funding it want found. Funny how that works.
20 posted on 02/01/2002 8:35:04 AM PST by steve50
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