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The day it was reported that Bush said he wanted to make 3 million illegals - legal he had a press conference in VA or somewhere and one of the first questions was about amnesty. His answer was that he was not for amnesty and never said he was. For some reason those on the right keep saying he said he was for amnesty. Mike Savage was quoting an article just last week and he kept saying Bush was for illegals getting unemployment benefits and the article didn't say he was for this at all. MICHELLE MALKIN was on foxnews two days ago and said Bush wanted to legalize 8 million mexicans - pure spin on her part!

Now, as for businesses wanting mexicans to work for them it is 100% true. They work for less and do work 99.99% of us don't want to do. Doesn't it make sence to have them here working legally so we can tax the workers as well as the businesses employing them? They're going to be here anyway so why not have them here legally with the sponsor (business) responsible for their health care, deducting payroll and fed taxes, etc..?

"Amnesty" is a meaningless buzzword for Bush. He wanted to "legalize" them, and said so. He played around with the word "blanket" amnesty. Here's one from July 27:

President Bush said Thursday that the White House effort to confer legal status on millions of undocumented immigrants from Mexico might be extended to all others who are in the United States unlawfully.

"Well, we'll consider all folks here," Bush said in response to a reporter's question. "Obviously, the Mexican issue is at the forefront. . . . But I'm open-minded. I'll listen to all proposals that people have in mind." The president's comments were his first on immigration reform since a high-level administration task force recently recommended that he consider ways to "regularize" the status of the 3 million to 4 million undocumented Mexican immigrants in this country.

Bush emphasized that he opposes a "blanket" amnesty--"The American people need to know that," he said--while providing few details about who would qualify for new, legal status. Administration officials are considering several options for an immigration policy overhaul, including some sort of amnesty for undocumented immigrants and a new guest worker status that would legitimize many who entered the country unlawfully but which might stop short of granting full citizenship.

The day it was reported that Bush said he wanted to make 3 million illegals - legal he had a press conference in VA or somewhere and one of the first questions was about amnesty. His answer was that he was not for amnesty and never said he was.

I recall this press conference, but the rumors of amnesty started in the White House before this press conference. This press conference was when he first stated that he was not for a blanket amnesty, and the reason the right keep saying he wanted amnesty, was because it was leaked by the White House.

Bush sent out a ballon early after talking with Fox, to see which way the wind was blowing. It was a favorite tactic of his father during his Presidency.

Well said. A little factual information should go a long way here but I wouldn't count on it!

They work for less and do work 99.99% of us don't want to do. Doesn't it make sence to have them here working legally so we can tax the workers as well as the businesses employing them?

Is that work that 99.99% of us wont do the kind of work that welfare recipients could do? I've always found this statement sad and strange. Are Americans so hauty? If so we ought to rethink everything we do as we are too big for our britches and thus surely acting like a'holes the world over. My government tells me I must pay people not to work because they cant find jobs that people in Mexico know about and can do despite no formal education and such. This is a joke.

Second, this is the argument an immoral capitalist would make (as opposed to a moral one). If you didn't have the illegals comming in the wage would rise. Have we been forced to educate and otherwise edify our fellow citizens, formerly through charity, but today through coercive government so that we can cease viewing our country as a comminity of people once we start talking about the labor supply for low end jobs? I hope not. This is inconsistent with the notion of community we should have as a people regardless of the current coerced nature imposed by government.

As for the taxes that is most often the reason that employers are hiring illegals. They are simply avoiding the taxes but paying the same after tax wage to illegals. The government itself creates the problem. But it is also well documented that many illegals consume far more in government giveaways then taxes they pay. And this is for legal immigrants, not the illegals.

saying Bush was for illegals getting unemployment benefits
and the article didn't say he was for this at all.

maybe not, but he restored food stamps to them....