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Protesters duel over bombings (East Lansing Protest)
State News (East Lansing) ^ | 1-22-02 | Jeanne Chan

Posted on 01/21/2002 9:24:54 PM PST by Dan from Michigan

Protesters duel over bombings
By JEANNE CHAN
The State News

Armed with colorful posters, bullhorns, a 15-foot banner and a number to call in case of arrest, about 50 people marched on Friday to protest U.S.-led bombings in Afghanistan.

Ten feet behind them, about 20 protesters marched in support of the bombings.

The two groups marched from the Union to the FBIoffice at 2911 Eyde Parkway.

“We’re trying to show those who oppose the war that terrorists will not respond to a peaceful resolution,” said Marc Stemmer, a political theory and constitutional democracy sophomore. “Force is necessary.”

But Lansing resident Steve Swart said bombing is not the answer.

“Basically, we want to come out and say that it’s not right to kill civilians here or anywhere else,” the 1999 MSU graduate said.

Swart is a member of Lansing’s Direct Action, which sponsored the march with the Detroit Anti-War Network. Both groups were created after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. While attending MSU, Swart helped start a group that became Students for Economic Justice.

“I think our goal is to shake things up and create a discussion,” Swart said. “We want to break the false consensus.

“We want to illuminate the direction of the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday. Martin Luther King Jr. stood for challenging the status quo.”

Members of Young Americans for Freedom, a nonpartisan conservative activism group, planned their protest in response to the anti-war demonstration.

“We are holding this rally in opposition to them,” said Dan Medford, a political theory and constitutional democracy junior. “We think it’s important to support our country.”

Eastpointe resident Lorraine Beeman said she drove more than 100 miles to the protest. She said she wanted to hear both perspectives, but thinks the United States should continue bombings in Afghanistan.

“The protesters are misguided youth,” she said. “I think Bush is right. We were brutally attacked on our own soil.”

But Okemos resident Geoff Field said violence won’t solve anything.

“Why do we kill people who kill people to stop killing people?” the Lansing Community College student said. “They’re supporting fascists. We’re losing more freedom by being paranoid, and it looks like the clouds of Nazi Germany are heading toward us.”

The two groups exchanged accusations throughout the protests.

“They are open-minded to their own opinions and tolerant of only their own ideas,” said political science sophomore Jon Farley, a member of Young Americans for Freedom. “We should have a diversity of ideas.”

Religious studies senior Rana Chang, who watched the protest, said the groups had many of the same ideas, but the catch phrases they used did not teach anything new. Instead, they muddled the message.

“The worst part is that the (pro-war) group had to pull apart,” she said. “They have a lot of common ground. The attitudes are something we need to work on.”


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Not that bad for what is normally an ULTRALIBERAL paper. This was much better than the Lansing State Journal and especially the APUKES reference.

I'm gonna dig up some dirt on that Detroit Anti-War Network if I can. I can't find anything on "Direct Action" on the web. "Students for (fillinblank) Justice" type groups are almost ALWAYS Commie. I want to tie all these to either Commies or Jihadists. Notice how often the word Fascist is used? Do they know another word? I wonder if that Geoff guy there is that bigtime jagoff that was the psycho there. Wouldn't shock me a bit. BTW - Thank you for the quote Geoff. You got more supporters for that quote. :D

Jon, if you are reading this, excellent quote, and it was nice meeting you there.

“They have a lot of common ground. The attitudes are something we need to work on.”

If that is the one lady that leaned against us, but wasn't part of the group, we had a good discussion. But one thing though. We didn't have a choice in this war. It came to us. We didn't go to them.

Lastly, before I'm asked, I'm not the Dan quoted in the article, although I agree with him.

1 posted on 01/21/2002 9:24:54 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: jackliberty;janeliberty
You'll want to see this one.
2 posted on 01/21/2002 9:26:42 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: all
My account of what happened
3 posted on 01/21/2002 9:30:17 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dave Dilegge ; leadpenny ; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub ; Snow Bunny ; hellinahandcart
The news account of what happened.
4 posted on 01/21/2002 9:33:22 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
Lansing’s Direct Action

The seem to be tied in with the ISO, Anarchists, and other commie trash. They are among those sponsoring the NYC get together, can't find a URL though

5 posted on 01/21/2002 10:00:15 PM PST by Little Bill
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To: Little Bill
I looked before. I wish I could make it to NYC then, but it's the same weekend as CPAC.
6 posted on 01/21/2002 10:02:16 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
I wish I could make it to NYC then, but it's the same weekend as CPAC

I know how you feel, I wanted to get both, cut the last day at CPAC and hit NYC on the way home. We are on a man for man relief and the person I would have cut a deal with will be on vacation.

There is always 4/27 in DC, so many commies so little time

7 posted on 01/21/2002 10:18:20 PM PST by Little Bill
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To: Dan from Michigan
BTTT! Pretty selfish of those peaceniks to schedule a protest during CPAC;-)
8 posted on 01/21/2002 11:38:33 PM PST by VaMarVet
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To: Dan from Michigan
Steve Swart

SUPPORT STEVE SWART, DEFEAT GOVERNMENT FRAMEUP!

A young Anarchist, Steve Swart is one of those few defendants still on trial for the protests at last Summer's Republican National Convention in Philadelphia.

Like many young people, he came to protest the farce of U.S. democracy at this event and how the polictical system is totally controlled by money.

He came to try to present a poor people's agenda, to protest the massive use of prisons against Black youth, the hypocrisy of racist, fat cat politicians and thier corporate political handlers, against years of police brutality and cop murders, the frameup of Mumia Abu Jamal and other political prisoners, the rape of the environment, and many other issues, all of which were in opposition to the police state and the corporate agenda.

LOL. I guess he beat the rap.

9 posted on 01/22/2002 3:13:02 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Good find. BTW - Steve Swart is white.
10 posted on 01/22/2002 5:49:39 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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