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Did Jailed 'Spy' in Canada Predict 911 Attacks ?
The Toronto Star Page B-3 ^ | 1-21-2002 | Nick Pron

Posted on 01/21/2002 8:07:02 PM PST by ex-Texan

Did Jailed 'Spy' In Canada Predict The 911 Attacks On America?

By Nick Pron Staff Reporter

While jet fighters drop bombs on Afghanistan in the wake of the World Trade Center tragedy and FBI agents search for the source of anthrax letters, an incredible tale has been unfolding in a Toronto courtroom.

It draws together the threads of a narrative some describe as "stunning and fantastic," while others wonder if it isn't just the ravings of a lunatic.

The man telling the tale in sworn court affidavits is Delmart Edward Vreeland, who faces credit fraud charges in Canada and in the United States, where officials are attempting to extradite him.

The 35-year-old American claims to be a lieutenant in a U.S. Navy intelligence unit - a spy who says he knew in advance about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

In his affidavit, he says he tried to warn Canadian intelligence about possible terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon, along with targets in Ottawa and Toronto, but was written off as a petty criminal.

So he wrote the warning on a piece of paper, sealed it in an envelope, and handed it to jail guards a month before the attacks. They opened the letter Sept. 14 and immediately forwarded the information to Ottawa.

His lawyers, Rocco Galati and Paul Slansky, are fighting extradition, telling the court he could face treason charges and the death penalty in the U.S.

In the first stage of hearings, federal prosecutor Kevin Wilson yesterday told Mr. Justice Archie Campbell of the Superior Court of Justice that he was skeptical of Vreeland's claims.

"Is his story possible? I can't go so far as to say it's not possible, but it's not plausible," Wilson said.

The prosecutor said he has seen no evidence to back Vreeland's claim that Canadian embassy official Marc Bastien was murdered in Moscow in December. Canadian officials said the 35-year-old computer specialist died of natural causes.

So, who is Delmart Edward Joseph Michael Vreeland II?

According to court documents, Vreeland was 18 when he enlisted in the U.S. Navy in 1984.

Two years later, Vreeland says in his affidavit, he joined a special unit investigating drug smuggling into the U.S. by naval personnel. But the navy says Vreeland was "unsatisfactorily discharged" in 1986.

Vreeland also claims he gathered information on a crime family in Detroit and testified against them in 1998.

Late last year, he says, he came to Canada to help smuggle Russian military secrets out of Moscow, including Russia's plan to counter the American 'Star Wars' missile defence system. While in Moscow, Vreeland says, he met Bastien.

Vreeland was arrested by a police fugitive squad nine months ago. While in Toronto (Don) Jail, he met Nestor Fonseca, who was facing drug smuggling charges and extradition to the U.S. The court documents say Fonseca allegedly told Vreeland of his plans to kill a Toronto judge and others. Fonseca was charged with counselling to commit murder.

Galati and Slansky said in the documents that Vreeland should be put into the witness protection program in Canada because he is the main witness against Fonseca.

Galati writes in one document: "Neither myself, nor Mr. Slansky ... have seen anything as incomprehensibly frustrating, inexplicable and irresponsibly absurd. as the RCMP's position that they are not interested in reviewing Mr. Vreeland's information."

It would appear, Galati says in the brief, that the Canadian and American governments have written Vreeland off as a "nut case," which he says is a "patently absurd conclusion."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: terrorwar
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To: ratcat
Thanks for the ping! This sounds like DOD or something. It will be interesting to follow.
102 posted on 02/07/2002 9:29:44 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Brian Allen;Travis McGee;Snow bunny;NAFVET
PING
103 posted on 02/07/2002 10:23:28 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: archy; thinden; honway; Plummz; ratcat; ex-Texan; Black Jade; OKCSubmariner; WindRiverShoshoni
From Al Qaeda backed Manila attack, Indonesian says:

MANILA, Philippines (AP) - An Indonesian man said he financed bombings that killed 22 people in Manila in December 2000 with money from an Islamic militant group thought linked to Osama bin Laden's terror network, according to affidavits given to prosecutors Friday. In the sworn statements, Fathur Rohman Al-Ghozi, 31, said he joined Jemaah Islamiyah, a Southeast Asian network suspected of links to al-Qaida, while he was a student in Lahore, Pakistan from 1990-1995. Philippine authorities arrested Al-Ghozi on Jan. 15 in Manila's Quiapo district. His arrest led authorities two days later to more than a tonne of explosives and 17 M-16 rifles in southern General Santos city. In the affidavits, al-Ghozi said those explosives were intended for attacks in Singapore.

I believe there was something on "the list" about that...

104 posted on 02/09/2002 1:12:57 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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Comment #107 Removed by Moderator

To: Black Jade
--that commentary by the fema first responder chief sure seems like one of two things. Either one of the most amazing coincidences in timing ever recorded, or a major faux paux. Hmm, sort of like stephanopolous's commentary on the twa800, when he referred to it as an attack/bomb most directly, as opposed to an "accident".
108 posted on 02/10/2002 6:17:07 AM PST by zog
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To: Black Jade
--I believe that there are several factions in government, at quiet war with each other behind the scenes, with some overlapping interests and some that are not. The references abnout the nukes are probably from our decision to scrap our best nukes, the most modern, while russia is building advanced road mobile nukes and scrapping their old clunkers. There's also the details-hidden pdd that clinton signed taking us off launch on warning to absorb the first strike, which to my knowledge hasn't been altered yet.

I would refer to joel skousen on this and similar matters, he is much more involved in this than I am. joelskousen.com Also audio interviews with skousen in RA format in renses archives, rense.com

I actually wish skousen would join us here on this forum occassionally, I might send him a note on the matter. I respect his brain and contacts and analysis.

110 posted on 02/10/2002 6:26:03 AM PST by zog
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To: ex-Texan
bttt
111 posted on 02/10/2002 6:45:08 AM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: Black Jade; Hamiltonian; Travis McGee; vooch; ex-Texan;ratcat;OKCSubmariner;rdavis84
Very interesting that this jailed American in Canada claims to be from the Office of Naval Intelligence.

If you guys want to really fly ou there into the twilight zone:

from the 'TC TECHNICAL CONSULTANT', Nov.-Dec., 1991 issue: Unsubstantiated information from an intelligence source claims that the current situation is THE VISIBLE EFFECT OF A WAR CURRENTLY GOING ON IN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY between a group centered in the CIA called AQUARIUS [around a powerful center known as MJ-12] and a group known as COM-12 centered around Naval Intelligence. COM-12 is reputedly trying to sustain a rearguard action to sustain and preserve constitutional government and is deliberately LEAKING INFORMATION damaging to the former group."

According to journalist Colin Brown in the December-January 1991 issue of Technical Consultant said that Com-12/ONI are the good guys with "almost supernatural communications capability". If all these spooky stuff is true, then the jailed "spy" is a COM-12/ONI operative, which explains his "prediction".

112 posted on 02/10/2002 4:14:36 PM PST by Spar
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To: all
I note an itchy "moderator" just removed a new article on this case. All I saw was the headline. Maybe someone on this thread knows what, if any, new info on this case is out there?
115 posted on 02/15/2002 7:26:51 AM PST by Plummz
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To: Plummz
yes, My post has been deleted. It was going like wildfire before the censors got to it. Do you know who the censors are, or if one can protest thier actions ?
116 posted on 02/15/2002 9:31:07 AM PST by SharpEye
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To: SharpEye
Bump
117 posted on 02/15/2002 10:16:01 AM PST by SharpEye
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To: SharpEye
Was it a Michael Ruppert article you posted? If so, JimRob deems his material unpostable to FR. That is based on my recent observation of a comment by JimRob. Please don't ask me to search for it...
118 posted on 02/15/2002 4:39:35 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: ratcat
Do you have an update on Mr. Vreeland ? Thanks. Bump
120 posted on 02/17/2002 3:44:47 AM PST by SharpEye
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