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Weapons Ruling Temporarily Holstered (Ohio CCW ban back in effect - @^#$#$) Another hearing Jan 22
Channell Cincinnati ^ | Jan 10

Posted on 01/10/2002 1:41:53 PM PST by Dan from Michigan

Edited on 05/07/2004 8:26:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

CINCINNATI -- A temporary injunction has been issued against a Thursday morning ruling that permitted some local residents to carry concealed weapons.

Judge Mark Painter of the 1st Ohio District Court of Appeals issued a stay Thursday afternoon, WLWT Eyewitness News 5 reported.


(Excerpt) Read more at channelcincinnati.com ...


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Damn.

BTW - If you are not a member of Second Amendment Foundation, please join. They are the ones behind this lawsuit, and specialize in legal matters. They are also ones behind the Emerson Case.

1 posted on 01/10/2002 1:41:53 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
Treason.
2 posted on 01/10/2002 1:45:44 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Dan from Michigan
What has 20,000 Gun Laws 
Done to Protect Americans?

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." - Atlas Shrugged

The U.S. Code contains all federal statutes and consists of 56,117 single-spaced pages. Taking up nine feet of shelf space consisting of forty-seven volumes. A footnoted version has 230 volumes and 36 paperback supplements. The Code of Federal Regulations consists of more than 134,500 pages of regulatory law spanning twenty feet of shelf space. Judicial precedents for Federal law stretch across 490 feet of law-library shelving that consists of 2,756 volumes.

How many of of those laws have you broken?

I have read more than one lawyer's description of how small business owners struggle with the laws and regulations. Stating that virtually every small business breaks the law each day. Medium and Large businesses do too.

There are also a huge number of laws that affect the individual. Probably the only people not breaking the law are mostly young children. Give them a few more years and they'll be sucked into the "criminal" category too

Do you see what has happened? If it was possible to have enough cops to apprehend and process all law breakers and run them through the justice system society would run headlong into destruction. In a day society would come to a screeching halt. 

Be thankful that all lawbreakers are not apprehended because we all might believe that we're just a bunch of criminals gone amuck and that our true nature as everyday heroes is just an illusion. 

In essence, that's just what the politicians, bureaucrats, news reporters, journalists, academia professors and Enviro-cult activists have been implying if not telling us. 

"If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? The organizers maintain that society, when left undirected, rushes headlong to its inevitable destruction because the instincts of the people are so perverse. The legislators claim to stop this suicidal course and to give it a saner direction. Apparently, then, the legislators and the organizers have received from Heaven an intelligence and virtue that place them beyond and above mankind. -- Frederick Bastiat, The Law (1850)

"More Guns, Less Crime", by John Lott gives powerful statistical proof that law-abiding citizens that own guns is the best means of personal self-defense. Being used 2,000,000 times a year for self-defense while 98% of the time just brandishing a gun is enough to fend off the criminal. As Lott says, "an armed society is a polite society."

The National Crime Victimization Report, U.S. Department of Justice shows that women who respond passively are 2.5 times more likely to be seriously injured than women who use a gun to defend themselves. Lott shows powerful evidence that it is poor minorities who live in high crime areas who benefit the most from being able to defend themselves. But you'll never hear that from the news media.

Compare that to Michael Bellesiles' book, "Arming America: The Origins of a National Gun Culture", and the media that championed the book to beat the band. But the book turned out to be total fraud.

Perspective

Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000 
-- New England Journal of Medicine

 Fast Facts from More Guns, Less Crime

Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups): 1,500
Number of 5 year-olds or younger who die from gun accidents in the home.: 30

 Children 14 to 15 years of age are 14.5 times more likely to die from automobile injuries, 5 times more likely to die from drowning or fire and burns, and 3 times more likely to die from bicycle accidents than they are to die from gun accidents. 

The Greatest Human and Moral Right
is the Right to Self-defense and Survival.

Make no mistake about it, without your life you have nothing. Your life is precious and everything to you.

The facts herein speak volumes about the twenty thousand unconstitutional gun laws written by the supposed compassionate politicians. Imagine that, 20,000 gun laws that infringes or violates every American's 2nd Amendment right to own and carry a gun -- hindering you and every other American from fully exercising his and her highest moral and individual right. It speaks volumes about other parasitical elites that are complicit in advocating and supporting the abuse of objective-law-abiding citizens.

30 Second Objective Law Primer 

Principle One: No person, group of persons, or government may initiate force, threat of force, or fraud against any individual.

Principle Two: Force may be morally and legally used only in self-defense against those who violate Principle One.

Principle Three: No exceptions shall be allowed for Principle One and Two.  

Principle One is first a law. For every instance that a person has force initiated against them there is a loss to that person. Only the person/victim knows the true value of their loss. The law underlying Principle One is absolute. As absolute as gravity. As true as physics law.

Why objective law? Because there are so many laws -- political agenda laws -- virtual every person is a politically correct criminal. Or is that a politically incorrect criminal. Either way, you get The Point of objective law. The Point is.

Prosecute the Guilty, Protect the Innocent !

 

3 posted on 01/10/2002 1:47:29 PM PST by Zon
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To: Dan from Michigan
Freep the poll!:

A Cincinnati judge has ruled that the state's ban on carrying concealed weapons is unconstitutional. Do you agree with the ruling?

Yes 733 86%

No 122 14%

4 posted on 01/10/2002 1:50:32 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Dan from Michigan
The anti's well do any thing to keep the rights of gun owners down. lie cheat and steal.
5 posted on 01/10/2002 1:50:39 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: Dan from Michigan
M&@#$!%%@#$#R THESE BASTAGES LEAVE OUR RIGHTS ALONE GET YOUR HANDS OFF S!@S OF B*$%^'S
6 posted on 01/10/2002 1:51:54 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Zon
# 752
7 posted on 01/10/2002 1:58:29 PM PST by Book Man
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To: Dan from Michigan
bttt - Nice battle happening there in Ohio. Having lived there '75-'79, I can say that is a great state.
8 posted on 01/10/2002 1:59:15 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Beelzebubba; Hail Caesar; Militiaman7; DrZ
BUMP for Freeping that poll. Now is 753:124. Just What Part of "SHALL NOT BE INGRINGED" do these cabbageheads not understand?!?
9 posted on 01/10/2002 2:00:15 PM PST by Rockinfreakapotamus
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To: bang_list
bang
10 posted on 01/10/2002 2:01:03 PM PST by newgeezer
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To: Beelzebubba
alt
A Cincinnati judge has ruled that the state's ban on carrying concealed weapons is unconstitutional. Do you agree with the ruling?
Choice Votes Percent of 897 votes
Yes 772 86%
No 125 14%
Thank you for taking part in our survey!

11 posted on 01/10/2002 2:01:05 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: all
Remember to VOTE YES

Now, it's 786 YES to 126 no.

12 posted on 01/10/2002 2:04:45 PM PST by newgeezer
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To: Dan from Michigan
Attorneys for the city and state said the right to bear arms doesn't prevent the state from regulating how citizens may carry guns.

I take it then that you can carry openly anywhere in Ohio.

13 posted on 01/10/2002 2:05:19 PM PST by TroutStalker
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To: Dan from Michigan
But look at the big picture. In the past two years more pro-2nd rulings have been made by US courts than the previous 60 years. The tide is turning in our favor.
14 posted on 01/10/2002 2:05:22 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Dan from Michigan
Now Ohioans can go back to being as safe as Britons.
15 posted on 01/10/2002 2:05:46 PM PST by Redcloak
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To: basil ; bang_list
For those interested.

Second Amendment Foundation

These are the people behind the lawsuit. They are the group that puts on the GRPC events like the one I was at earlier this year. They are good people.

16 posted on 01/10/2002 2:06:18 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: pabianice
True. Emerson was a slight victory. We also won twice in Michigan last year as well.
17 posted on 01/10/2002 2:07:24 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Beelzebubba
Guys to beat the pro criminal lobby you gotta hit the streets in large numbers and talk about this on local radio shows. Good luck.
18 posted on 01/10/2002 2:10:01 PM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
Also vote in the poll to let the media know how you feel BUMP!
19 posted on 01/10/2002 2:10:49 PM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Dan from Michigan
Dumb question: Can't we get an injunction against the injunction? Lol. No, seriously . . . I'm half-serious . . . I mean where is it written that an injunction supports and upholds an illegal status quo; i.e., shouldn't the Constitution be considered the legitimate status quo that these traitors are trying to overturn? Okay, there's my idiotic I-know-absolutely-nothing-about-the-law question for the day . . . What exactly is an injunction for? If someone is holding my head under water and I get a court order for him to cease and desist, in what sense is it just for him to be given the benefit of an injunction temporarily suspending the ruling?
20 posted on 01/10/2002 2:13:34 PM PST by LibWhacker
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