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Judge strikes down concealed carry 'ban'
Cincinnati Post ^ | Jan. 10, 2002 | Kimball Perry

Posted on 01/10/2002 4:52:10 AM PST by Corporate Law

Judge strikes down concealed carry 'ban'

By Kimball Perry, Post staff reporter

A judge today ruled unconstitutional Ohio's law that effectively prevents law-abiding citizens from carrying a concealed weapon for protection or work.

Ohio's concealed carry laws ''are unconstitutional on their face and as applied to the plaintiffs in that said (laws) deny to plaintiffs, in particular, and the law-abiding citizens with in Hamilton County, in general, the right to carry a concealed firearm for their defense and security, contrary to their Ohio Constitutional right,'' Hamilton County Common Pleas Court Judge Robert Ruehlman noted in his decision released today.

Ruehlman also ordered a permanent injunction in the case preventing police from making arrests for carrying a concealed weapon by ''law-abiding citizens within Hamilton County.''

Hamilton County Prosecutor Mike Allen said he will appeal Ruehlman's decision.

''We anticipated it,'' Allen said, noting he already has his written appeal ready to file. ''We're going to appeal and ask for a stay. Any change in this law should come from the Legislature.''

The original suit was filed in 2000 by Cincinnati private investigator Chuck Klein Jr. and others - a hair stylist, pizza delivery man and can teen food truck workers - who said they needed to carry concealed weapons for their work or safety.

''It doesn't surprise me,'' Klein said today. ''Outstanding. The law was a bad law and the (Ohio) Legislature over the years has refused to look at it. This was the only option we had left.''

In today's ruling, Ruehlman noted people should have the right to protect themselves.

''Amidst all of the baying from gun opponents is the irrefutable fact that there will always be people in our society who refuse to follow any rules and who can never be reasoned with or rehabilitated,'' he wrote. ''These people have no conscience and no qualms about doing harm to innocent persons.''

Ohio is one of less than 10 states which outlaws concealed weapons. Klein filed the suit - with the help of gun advocacy agencies The Second Amendment Foundation and Ohioans for Concealed Carry - in hopes of getting either the law overturned or a permitting process established.

''I wouldn't object to a permitting system,'' Klein said, ''as long as it isn't an Orwellian or Draconian system that makes you jump through a whole bunch of hoops.''

This isn't the first time Ruehlman has been involved in controversial decisions involving guns.

In 1999, Ruehlman tossed out a lawsuit in which the city of Cincinnati sued gun manufacturers, distributors and trade association, blaming them for negligence. The guns, that suit accused, were designed without proper safety features and, as a result, the city sought to have those manufacturers repay the city for police, medical and other services related to violence because guns contribute to public health problems.

Writing that people - not guns - kill, Ruehlman threw out that suit.

Publication date: 01-10-02


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
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Good news
1 posted on 01/10/2002 4:52:10 AM PST by Corporate Law
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To: BANG_LIST
Not good news.

Excellent news!

2 posted on 01/10/2002 4:57:54 AM PST by the
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To: Corporate Law
Good judgement!

Let's here it for a judge that took the time to read the Constitution!

3 posted on 01/10/2002 4:57:56 AM PST by TC Rider
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To: Corporate Law
One point for the good guys.
4 posted on 01/10/2002 4:59:13 AM PST by cactmh
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To: Corporate Law
Nice. I'll be interested to see how this affects the current bills being introduced for permits to carry.
5 posted on 01/10/2002 5:00:45 AM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: Corporate Law
Writing that people - not guns - kill, Ruehlman threw out that suit.

This line says it all.

6 posted on 01/10/2002 5:01:02 AM PST by Corporate Law
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To: Corporate Law
''We anticipated it,'' Allen said, noting he already has his written appeal ready to file. ''We're going to appeal and ask for a stay. Any change in this law should come from the Legislature.''

IOW, "We knew we would lose because any truthful person can see the law is unconstitutional. Although we realize that it is the courts place to rule laws unconstitutional, we don't think they should do it in this case because history shows that the bought and paid for legislature will not change the law".

7 posted on 01/10/2002 5:01:10 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: TC Rider
Let's here it for a judge that took the time to read the Constitution!

here = hear

I hope there are some Freepers who are carrying today, at least until the injunction goes through.

8 posted on 01/10/2002 5:01:37 AM PST by TC Rider
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Robert Ruehlman --- bump! The guy deserves to be nominated to the U.S Supreme Court when there's a vacancy. What a great day for the 2nd Amendment in Ohio!!!
9 posted on 01/10/2002 5:01:59 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Corporate Law
''I wouldn't object to a permitting system,''

If you have to get permission or a license for that matter from the government, then obviously it is STILL unconstitutional.

The 2nd Amendment mentions NOTHING about getting permission.


10 posted on 01/10/2002 5:02:58 AM PST by unixfox
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To: Bikers4Bush
Let's see if that spineless Governor will do what he promised while a candidate and sign a bill. I am certainly not going to hold my breath.
11 posted on 01/10/2002 5:03:04 AM PST by Corporate Law
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To: Corporate Law
Bang! Oops, I meant bump!
12 posted on 01/10/2002 5:04:02 AM PST by FairWitness
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To: goldstategop
Heck, I would like to see him on the Ohio Supreme Court. God knows we need justices like him in Columbus.
13 posted on 01/10/2002 5:04:18 AM PST by Corporate Law
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To: Corporate Law
Hopefully one more state down, nine to go.

Now we just need one license for all 50 states!!!



Eaker

14 posted on 01/10/2002 5:04:43 AM PST by Eaker
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To: TC Rider
Yep. He's a county common pleas court judge, making a ruling on the Ohio Constitution. That will be hard to reverse by a federal or even a state court. Too bad that so few federal judges have read the US Constitution, and most of those who have disagree with it.
15 posted on 01/10/2002 5:05:01 AM PST by Twodees
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Congrats, Ohioans! And I am, though I'm not in Ohio.
16 posted on 01/10/2002 5:05:17 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Bikers4Bush
I don't think they're needed. What Judge Ruehlman's decision basically said is that ANY attempt to prevent people from exercising their right of self-defense is unconstitutional. Its going to be interesting what the Ohio Supreme Court says and there's a good chance this could turn into a test case for the U.S Supreme Court to decide how banning concealed carry weapons relates to the 2nd Amendment. For the moment let's just savor this victory.
17 posted on 01/10/2002 5:06:30 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Corporate Law
Wasn't this judge's wife robbed or raped at gunpoint several years ago?? Seems i remember that the defendents (the State?) was asking him to recuse himself because of his bias.....If i'm right he told them to shove it....We need more JUST like him....
18 posted on 01/10/2002 5:06:44 AM PST by is_is
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To: Corporate Law
A JUDGE that upholds the LAW!












Sorry, I think I fainted!

19 posted on 01/10/2002 5:08:16 AM PST by realwoman
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To: Eaker
Now we just need one license for all 50 states!!!

I'd rather any one state's license being valid for any other state. But you're right, this is a great victory for us pro-self-defense people. I congratulate my neighbors to the south (even if they did win the Toledo War) on regaining the right to be responsible for themselves.

20 posted on 01/10/2002 5:09:34 AM PST by Chemist_Geek
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