Posted on 12/17/2001 4:13:36 PM PST by t-shirt
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Monday, December 17, 2001Navy Petty Officer Wellington Jimenez walked into the identification room at Fort Hamilton in Brooklyn one day recently and gave his name, rank and fingerprint. In return, he got a token of the future: a plastic ID card embedded with a computer chip.....
In the post-Sept. 11 world, some again are calling for a national identification card, setting off a debate over how to balance security with personal freedom.
(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...
Some say the time has come for Americans to consider giving up some privacy to create a more secure nation, while others believe that would foster new forms of discrimination, do little to stop terrorists and lead to increased surveillance of private citizens.
Regarding discrimination. The right of free association is the right to accept or refuse to associate.
The 4th amendment protects (it was intended to but John Ashcroft abused much of it) individuals from government entering their property unless they have a properly written search warrant. It's government abuse that forces a person to open his doors to a stranger (discrimination laws are bogus). The 4th Amendment protects citizens and business on their property and their effects from a government that can't be trusted. Yet the government deems total strangers trust worthy. It is not their place to make that judgment. How upside down, stupid , parasitical, criminal does the congress have to be to pass laws and say, "we, the government can't be trusted (4th Amendment) but a total stranger must be trusted"?
If I owned a restaurant I would no more serve John Walker a hamburger than I would Bill and Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Janet Reno and a list a mile long. It is every person's right, even common sense, to refuse to associate with whomever they want. Furthermore, if I was eating in a restaurant and saw any of the above eating along side I would complain to the restaurant manager -- preferably the owner. Just as I would if they were serving John Walker.
Bottom line, it is: Value producers versus value destroyers.
If civilization had to chose between business/science and government/bureaucracy, eliminating the other, which is the better choice?
The first thing civilization must have is business/science. It is what the family needs so that its members can live creative, productive happy lives. Business/science can survive, even thrive without government/bureaucracy. Government/bureaucracy cannot survive without business/science. In general, business/science and family is the host and government/bureaucracy is a parasite.
Aside from that, keep valid government services that protect individual rights and property. Military defense, FBI, CIA, police and courts. With the rest of government striped away those few valid services would be several fold more efficient and effective than they are today.
How to clean up government.
"It's clear the proposed national ID system would have done very little to prevent the attacks of Sept. 11. It doesn't sort the good from the bad," said Witold J. Walczak
Here's an ID database that is long overdue. It begins by having all politicians, bureaucrats and JBTs wearing ID tags. Remember that we're their employer -- they work for us -- The People.
That way the sales clerks will know who they are and can look them up in the ostracism database and reply, "Sir, you have AAA value destruction rating. We don't sell to value destroyers. Get out of here."
Think about it. What would protect an serve The People more, a national ID database or a Value Destroyer database?
"It's only as good as the information that establishes an individual's ID in the first place," Walczak said. "You can't stamp 'terrorist' on there if you don't know someone is a terrorist in advance."
Politicians and bearcats have easily available "track records" that can be "stamped" with a value destruction rating. Or a value production rating, if there is such a thing for a politician or bureaucrat.
"If some criminal taps into the system, the ability to steal identities is immense," he said. "Eventually there would be a black market for the cards, and potential terrorists could waltz right onto airplanes."
Catch a politician or bureaucrat doing that and...good-bye. Game over for them.
From a law enforcement perspective, Fulton said a national system could be useful, but it would depend on whether the federal government shares the database or whether police would need a search warrant to access the information.
Of course, the value destroyer databases in several countries would be able to share information.
Robert A. Levy, senior fellow in constitutional studies at the Cato Institute, warns that eventually an ID card used to safeguard air travel would filter into other areas of daily life.
The value destroyer database could easily filter down to include smaller areas of government to root out small-time value destroyers at the community level.
If terrorists were deterred from targeting airplanes, some might resort to hitting bus terminals or sports arenas, forcing officials to expand the system, Levy said. He warns that one day citizens might be required to carry a national ID while stepping out for a quart of milk.
Imagine how the wife or child destroyer would feel when stepping out for a quart of milk because their value destroying spouse or parent was justifiably ostracized.
"If you don't volunteer they're going to subject your luggage to the most extensive search you've ever seen," Levy said. "They're going to make it so burdensome the ID card will be attractive by contrast. They get around the civil liberties issue by making it optional, but I can’t conceive of Osama bin Laden lining up to get his national ID card. The predicted failure of a voluntary system would lead to a compulsory system."
I doubt there's a politician, bureaucrat or JBT on the planet that would volunteer to wear the value-rating ID. Despite proclaiming their compassion for The People -- their employer. Their refusal to wear the value-rating ID is testament to their feigned compassion.
Using business/science to rescue the individual, family and society from politicians, bureaucrats and the parasitical elite value destroyers.
LOL. Think of it as "tough love" for your country.
It's absolutely hopeless trying to wake these walking, talking human rocks up...
Nope. We deserve better than to be sold out by our servicemen!
Try to work and earn a living, and try to manage your money with a bank or brokerage without the SS card; and try to buy and sell, or travel without your driver's license.
Of course, the State of Michigan will only imbed your name and license number in the magnetic strip (how comforting)--or at least that's today's story.
Is this really true? someone has to be working overtime to come up with acronyms like this I'm wondering why it's not MARC 6.66?
I really think that Ronald Reagan understood this. I'm not sure that any other president prior to Teddy Roosevelt did, however. This is a concept that needs to be hammered into the psyche of politicians--and there is no better way to hammer than with term limits.
Failure to carry a visa proves you are a citizen?
Passing new law serves only to remind us of the failure in enforcing existing ones.
Certain law passed in a moment of fervor, passion, and/or protection must be periodically reviewed, re-interpreted, or dissolved, in order to prevent their later abuse.
1. Restrictions on taking money out of the country and on the establishment or retention of a foreign bank account by an American citizen.
2. Abolition of private ownership of hand guns.
3. Detention of individuals without judicial process.
4. Requirements that private financial transactions be keyed to social security numbers or other government identification so that government records of these transactions can be fed into a computer.
5. Use of compulsory education laws to forbid attendance at presently existing private schools.
6. Compulsory non-military service.
7. Compulsory psychological treatment for non-government workers or public school children.
8. An official declaration that anti-communist (Patriot) organizations are subversive and subsequent legal action taken to suppress them.
9. Laws limiting the number of people allowed to meet in a private home.
10. Any significant change in passport regulations to make passports more difficult to obtain.
11. Wage and price controls, especially in a non-wartime situation.
12. Any kind of compulsory registration with the government of where individuals work.
13. Any attempt to restrict freedom of movement within the United States.
14. Any attempt to make a new major law by executive decree (that is, actually put into effect, not merely authorized as by existing executive orders.)
Read post #22 and then tell me if you still think term limits is the better way.
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