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Venezuela's Chavez Threatens to Nationalize Banks
dailynews.yahoo.com ^ | December 16, 2001 | CHRISTOPHER TOOTHAKER, AP

Posted on 12/16/2001 1:56:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - President Hugo Chavez threatened on Saturday to nationalize banks that fail to observe legislation requiring them to lend at least 15 percent of their loan portfolio to small farmers.

``We can nationalize any bank that does not observe the law,'' Chavez said in a speech in Venezuela's National Assembly. ``Not only can we nationalize any bank, any banker that does not abide by the law could go to jail.''

Last month, Chavez' government used ``fast-track'' legislative powers to decree 49 laws affecting industries from oil to agriculture.

Under the new legislation, banks must lend at least 15 percent, rather than the previous 8 percent, of their portfolios to poor farmers in need of credit.

Another contentious law opens the way for the expropriation of ``idle'' farmlands and the distribution of small plots to farmers.

Chavez made the statements during a ceremony to commemorate the second anniversary of the approval of the new constitution.

To protest the laws, Fedecameras, the country's leading association of businesses, brought Venezuela to a virtual halt with a one-day nationwide strike earlier this week. It is also challenging the laws in Venezuela's highest court and pushing for amendments in the legislature.

Business groups fear the Land Law violates the right to private property and will scare off investors. Some bankers have said they would rather pay a fine for disregarding the new laws than provide more loans.

It was not immediately clear how much banks could be fined for ignoring the laws.

Chavez, a leftist former paratrooper, claims the package of laws will consolidate his so-called ``revolution'' aimed at bringing social justice to Venezuela's poor majority.


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1 posted on 12/16/2001 1:56:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Venezuela is starting to sound a lot like Zimbabwe.

I won't by Citgo gas any more.

2 posted on 12/16/2001 2:11:58 AM PST by snopercod
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Poor, ILLITERATE, farmers! Who's going to enforce the loan contracts?
3 posted on 12/16/2001 2:15:53 AM PST by Chapita
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Just another paranoid, schizophrenic latin caudillo, similar to the one in habana. It won't take chavez long to do to Venezuela, what castro has done to Cuba. I was in Caracas in 1994, and it was already a sh*thole then. I can just imagine what it looks like now, and what it will look like when hugo chavez has completed his demolition job. One really feels for the Venezuelans, from the corrupt kleptocrat carlos anders perez to the ranting and raving of the bizarre one, chavez. The Venezuelans deserve better.
4 posted on 12/16/2001 2:20:02 AM PST by AdvisorB
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To: snopercod
I've been following the Last six months of Hugo Chavez and it's interesting to see how he just keeps moving toward dicatorial rule and the people keep saying, "well he hasn't taken that away, yet...." Then before you know it he has. They may have already lost the opportunity to stop him.
5 posted on 12/16/2001 2:42:58 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Chapita
Who's going to enforce the loan contracts?

Hugo Chavez, their new landlord, will have them working the fields real good, just like Castro.

6 posted on 12/16/2001 2:44:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Mr.Smorch

A riot police officer guards a vacant building invaded by about 50 families who support the Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez in Caracas, Venezuela, Friday, Nov. 16, 2001. Chavez announced a Land Reform Law that determines how the government can usurp idle, private land. Thousands of homeless Venezuelans who built ramshackle homes on private lots, invaded buildings in all of Venezuela's 20 states and the Federal District.(AP Photo/Fernando Llano)
7 posted on 12/16/2001 2:48:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Very impressive thread. Nice work.
8 posted on 12/16/2001 2:48:55 AM PST by snopercod
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
[G]overnment's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.

Reagan -Remarks to the White House Conference on Small Business, August 15, 1986
9 posted on 12/16/2001 2:49:22 AM PST by Texas_Longhorn
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Just another Socialist. Death and destruction will follow him as long as he lives.
10 posted on 12/16/2001 2:59:31 AM PST by hsszionist
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To: Texas_Longhorn
Reagan would be pretty damn mad about the way things have gone in the western hemisphere.
11 posted on 12/16/2001 3:07:53 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: hsszionist
"It is possible to be a socialist, and radical in one's agendas, and yet moderate in the means one regards as practical to achieve them. To change the world, it is first necessary to acquire cultural and political power. And these transitional goals may often be accomplished by indirection and deception even more effectively than by frontal assault. Political stratagems that appear moderate and compromised to radical factions of the left may present an even greater threat from the perspective of the other side. In 1917, Lenin's political slogan wasn't "Socialist Dictatorship! Firing Squads and Gulags!" It was "Bread, Land and Peace."

….Snip…..

In the 1930s, Nazis used "The Third Way" to characterize their own brand of national socialism as a equidistant between the "internationalist" socialism of the Soviet Union and the capitalism of the West. Trotskyists used "The Third Way" as a term to distinguish their own Marxism from Stalinism and capitalism. In the 1960s, New Leftists used "The Third Way" to define their politics as an independent socialism between the Soviet gulag and America's democracy.

But as the history of Nazism, Trotskyism and the New Left have shown, there is no "Third Way." There is the capitalist, democratic way based on private property and individual rights-a way that leads to liberty and universal opportunity. And there is the socialist way of group identities, group rights, a relentless expansion of the political state, restricted liberty and diminished opportunity. The Third Way is not a path to the future. It is just the suspension between these two destinations. It is a bad faith attempt on the part of people who are incapable of giving up their socialist schemes to escape the taint of their discredited past.

….Snip….Their cynicism flows from the very perception they have of right and wrong. They do it for higher ends. They do it for the progressive faith. They do it because they see themselves as having the power to redeem the world from evil. It is that terrifyingly exalted ambition that fuels their spiritual arrogance and justifies their sordid and, if necessary, criminal means." --Excerpted from "Hillary Clinton and the Radical Left: Hillary Clinton and the "Third Way"

12 posted on 12/16/2001 3:20:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What he's doing - giving the government control over how property gets used while allowing the fiction of private ownership to remain - is precisely the classical definition of Fascism.
13 posted on 12/16/2001 3:55:41 AM PST by N00dleN0gg1n
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To: N00dleN0gg1n
"What he's doing - giving the government control over how property gets used while allowing the fiction of private ownership to remain - is precisely the classical definition of Fascism."

Sounds like parts of our good old U.S.A., doesn't it?

Carolyn

14 posted on 12/16/2001 3:59:36 AM PST by CDHart
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To: N00dleN0gg1n
He's re-written the constitution, stacked the judiciary, taken over the schools and the cultural agenda, blocked gun licensing for ranchers and denied them the right to form militias to protect themselves from land grabbers and Columbian rebels (that he helps arm) who kidnap them.

He's also set up block watch committees fashioned after Castro's to report any infractions to him. He's kissed up to every anti-American sentiment and leader and brought in Cuban trainers and teachers to help him out with all he must do. Now he's freely decreeing laws to the business and private sector. It goes on and on.

15 posted on 12/16/2001 4:14:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"They may have already lost the opportunity to stop him."

I'm afraid you're right. He was certainly unfazed by last week's strike. Too little, too late.

He took advantage of the fact that, whatever its problems, Venezuela had a large population of orderly and law-abiding folk who did not relish the thought of taking to the streets. One by one, their civil institutions (Parliament, courts of law) were stripped away or taken over by Chavez, and they kept hoping that each power grab would be the last. And of course, Chavez would then appear to make conciliatory noises, which they desperately wanted to believe - until the next time.

You can't appease a would-be dictator by tossing him a few institutions; it just whets his appetite and lets him know he can get away with it. And it eliminates any power or individual who might be able to lead some kind of resistance. Opposition Venezuelans now find themselves leaderless and powerless. And this is complicated by the fact that the U.S., thanks to Democrat stalling of Bush's appointees, is unable to provide much encouragement.

16 posted on 12/16/2001 4:18:56 AM PST by livius
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To: livius
And this is complicated by the fact that the U.S., thanks to Democrat stalling of Bush's appointees, is unable to provide much encouragement.

More on that here: WHILE CARACUS BURNS Sen. Dodd's petulance threatens national security -- Yet while Caracas burns, the top U.S. policy maker for the region can't assume his post for reasons of petty ideological revenge. Otto Reich--President Bush's nominee to be Assistant Secretary of State for the Western Hemisphere--still can't get a hearing in Connecticut Senator Chris Dodd's subcommittee. Mr. Dodd's petulance has gone beyond the usual Beltway payback and is now creating a leadership vacuum damaging to U.S. national security.

18 posted on 12/16/2001 4:40:03 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: teenager
This idiot needs to be given a cell next to Noriega.

He may get there yet.

19 posted on 12/16/2001 4:40:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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