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To: OKCSubmariner
"Bush senior gave the US neutron bomb technology to the Chinese and French about ten years ago in an act of great treason."

"gave the US neutron bomb technology to the Chinese"
Hmmmm. How did I miss this. Can you expound on this please, thanks.

20 posted on 12/15/2001 4:15:14 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: ChaseR,Wallaby,Uncle Bill
RE: ChaseR's reply #20:

Sam Cohen, the father of the neutron bomb, wrote a long article in 2000 that was published in numerous magazines (including the New American)and posted on the FreeRepublic where he describes in detail how Bush Senior gave the Chinese and French the neutron bomb technology after Bush ordered the US neutron bomb components to be depleted (Sept 27,1991). Actual photos of Chinese and French tests of the neurton bomb were also analyzed by Cohen and posted on the Freerepublic.

Please Contact Wallaby or Uncle Bill or Alamo-girl and ask them to repost the articles. The archives and search engines on FreeRepublic have been royally messed up for the past five months and I cannot retrieve the article electronically.

21 posted on 12/15/2001 6:35:24 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner, ChaseR, super175, Lady in Blue
Nuclear secrets were stolen for at least twenty years, as indicated in the Cox report, summarized (merely for convenience) in the following Highlights of U.S. report on alleged China spying:


CNN - Highlights of U.S. report on alleged China spying - May 25, 1999 WASHINGTON> (CNN) -- Over a 20-year period, China has stolen secret data on every weapon currently deployed in the U.S. nuclear arsenal and is most likely still doing so despite tighter security measures imposed at nuclear labs since last fall, a long-awaited congressional report said Tuesday.

The bipartisan report on alleged Chinese spying was approved unanimously by the nine members of a special House committee chaired by Rep. Christopher Cox (R-California).

Here are the report's highlights:

Nuclear secrets and the neutron bomb

These include the W-88 Trident D-5 thermonuclear warhead, the W-56 Minuteman II, the W-62 Minuteman III, the W-70 Lance, the W-76 Trident C-4, the W-78 Minuteman III Mark 12A, and the W-87 Peacekeeper thermonuclear warheads.

Satellites and U.S. companies

More than 3,000 Chinese corporations, some with links to China's army, operate in the United States. China uses front companies to buy technology and blur the end-use.

U.S. campaign donations to curry favor


As a matter of fact, the time frame is rather limited here, since Chinese Communist espionage, including theft of technology, and much worse, surely had been going on since the victory of the CCP on the mainland, and before.

Truman himself was in fact surrounded by advisors and officials actually trying to accelerate the Communist victory and sabotage the Nationalists.

More important, contra much leftist and orthodox ChiCom-symp "Old China Hand" analysis, the United States did not lift a finger to aid the ROC when they retreated to Taiwan, until Eisenhower was elected.

For all that, if you recall when the Cox Report was being compiled, the Democrats were going out of their way to implicate both Reagan and Bush Senior in acts they wished to construe as similar and equivalent to the patent and indefensible transgressions of the Clinton administration, and threatened to block the whole committee report if they were not allowed to do so.

Cox reluctantly acquiesced as I recall.

You are usually very precise, OKCSubmariner. With ChaseR I must ask:

(1) Do you mean to say that Bush senior personally, knowingly, and deliberately gave secret neutron nuclear technology to the Chinese Communists, and thus intended and committed treason?

(2)That the transgressions of Bush senior and/or Reagan, as the Democrats and leftists would have us believe, were equivalent to what went on under the Clinton administration, and quite as grave in all respects?

I personally do not consider even Truman, whose administration tried practically to hand the ROC on Taiwan over to the Chinese Communists, to have been a party to the conspiracy, though he was certainly a dupe of important advisors.

With Stilwell earlier, who also was extremely detrimental to the Nationalists and helpful to the Communists, I am also somewhat in doubt. He was, as it turns out, involved in some fairly strange "psychic" activities, through his wife, and apparently thought himself at one point the reincarnation of an ancient Chiense general, if one story is to be believed.

No doubt he was and remains the darling of the left and the ChiComs, but was he actively and knowingly working in their interest, or merely in many ways an unstable, vulnerable, and useful dupe?

Another strand, also extending back to WWII and reaching right up through Clinton, is the machinations of some of our supposed British "cousins", who've had an interesting knack of turning the policies of the United States on this or that front to their own interests, which are often not consonant with ours. So do with other states like Israel or, now and then, even Turkey or Germany or now the EU, and so forth.

In the Nixon administration, it goes without saying, Red China certainly had warm comrades in Kissinger and Haig and others, and still does apparently

On the other hand, I see two important benchmarks that are necessary to context: (1)the Cold War against the Soviet Union; and (2) Tiananmen.

In any case, I too am interested in your reply to ChaseR.

Best regards. S&W R.I.P.

23 posted on 12/15/2001 6:56:17 PM PST by Hopalong
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