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Swiss to Decide Army Issue (Socialists Want To Abolish Militia-AKA-All Citizens Armed,Free)
Swiss Radio International ^ | December 1, 2001 | Imogen Foulkes

Posted on 12/01/2001 12:39:14 PM PST by t-shirt

Swiss to decide army issue -- again

Swiss time 22:10, Saturday December 1, 2001

The referendum will decide on the future of the Swiss army

On Sunday the Swiss go to the polls to vote on an initiative aimed at abolishing the army.

Switzerland is relatively unusual in Europe these days, in that it continues to operate a militia style army in which every Swiss man must serve at regular intervals for a good part of his adult life.

Neighbouring countries such as France have recently announced the abolition of compulsory military service.

But the Swiss army has long been seen as much more than a military force; it is also a significant part of Switzerland’s life and culture.

The army in its present form was first founded in the 19th century, just as Switzerland was becoming a constitutional confederation.

Unifying force

The idea of requiring every Swiss man to serve was regarded not just as a good way of building an army quickly – it was also intended to unify a country which had four languages and many different cultures.

Rather cynically, the Swiss army was sometimes referred to by city dwellers as “the place where the country boys learn to brush their teeth.“

But, city and country boys alike had to serve, and still have to serve today. In fact, the chance to meet and work with those from other parts of the country is an aspect of the army that many Swiss men still cherish.

End of cold war

The second world war is regarded as the Swiss army’s finest hour; during the war years 800,000 men served in the military, many spent months at a time away from their families, guarding Switzerland’s borders against potential invaders.

But in 1989 the end of the cold war brought questions about the real purpose of the army. With the fall of the Berlin Wall, it became clear that the Soviet Union‘s perceived role as an expansionist aggressor was no longer really correct.

Overnight, the traditional role of the Swiss army, which was to defend Switzerland’s borders against invasion – presumably by the Soviet Union – disappeared.

In a referendum in late 1989 calling for the abolition of the Swiss army, one third of those voting said they thought the army should go.

Sizeable minority

It was a sizeable minority; it indicated dissatisfaction with the military status quo, and the Swiss government knew the vote could not be ignored.

During the 1990s, the number of soldiers in the army was reduced, as was the length of time each man was required to serve. In addition a civil service option was introduced, so that those who did not want to serve in a military way had an alternative other than a prison sentence.

But none of this was enough for opponents of the army. Nico Lutz, leader of the Switzerland without an Army campaign, believes neutral states like Switzerland would be better developing new ways of conflict resolution rather than continuing with the army.

“Autonomous self-defence is just not an option for Switzerland,” Lutz told swissinfo, “no one really believes that, not the army, and not the government.“

Contribution to world peace

Instead of the army, Lutz wants Switzerland to set up a civilian conflict resolution body aimed at brokering peace in regions where there is tension and disagreement.

But keen supporters of the army like Maximilian Reimann, who is a Swiss People’s Party member of the Senate, say it would be ridiculous for Switzerland to go it alone by abolishing the army.

“Over 190 nations have armies,“ Reimann reminded swissinfo, “many of them with very modern and sophisticated weaponry. I really don’t see why Switzerland should be the one country on earth not to have an army.“

Reimann maintains that the primary function of the Swiss army remains a defensive one, protecting the country from aggressors.

“The other two roles are internal security, with regard to terrorism for example, and international peacekeeping,“ said Reimann.

Influence of September 11th

Lutz agrees that the argument that the army can be used to defend against terrorism is a persuasive one, particularly in the wake of September 11th.

But he maintains it is an argument that does not stand up to scrutiny.

“There is no army in the world that can defend a country against a handful of religious fanatics, armed with bombs, who turn civilian airliners into bombs,“ said Lutz.

“Protection against terrorism is certainly a job for the intelligence services, and for the police, but it is not something the army can do.“

Vote unlikely to succeed

In fact, both Lutz and Reimann agree that the initiative to abolish the army is unlikely to succeed on Sunday.

What will be interesting however is, just as in 1989, the size of the vote in favour of abolition.

Supporters of the army hope that the latest restructuring of the military, which includes decreasing the numbers of soldiers again, and lowering the age limit for serving to 32 years, will satisfy doubters that the army is really now a modern and flexible force suited to the 21st century.

But, if the vote in favour of abolishing the army is higher than around 25 per cent, the Swiss government may well send the army planners back to the drawing board.

by Imogen Foulkes


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Never give up your militia, Swiss Patriots!

Pray for the Swiss to do what is right and keep their great militia-style army--where all able men are armed and free and able to defend against foriegn invasion (and resist tyranny if need be).

This is the militia that Hitler's NAZI's and the Soviets' Commies knew better than to attack.
---An army where every soldier is like a sniper--an armed free man with a mordern,advanced semi/automatic rifle.

1 posted on 12/01/2001 12:39:14 PM PST by t-shirt
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But......but........what will they do with all those knives?



Watch out! The guy behind me has a FORK!!!

2 posted on 12/01/2001 12:40:50 PM PST by Howlin
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Peace through strength!

Stay armed Switzerland!

Stay armed America!

3 posted on 12/01/2001 12:43:49 PM PST by t-shirt
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But......but........what will they do with all those knives?

They've all been confiscated at American airports.

8)

4 posted on 12/01/2001 12:49:52 PM PST by AAABEST
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LOL........very well done!
5 posted on 12/01/2001 12:52:36 PM PST by Howlin
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“There is no army in the world that can defend a country against a handful of religious fanatics, armed with bombs, who turn civilian airliners into bombs,“ said Lutz.

Gee, I bet the Taliban are saying exactly that!!! Stay armed Switzerland, it is the only way to stay free. There is a reason Socialists push this nonsense. It is because they want no opposition when they take over.

6 posted on 12/01/2001 1:01:18 PM PST by marktwain
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By the way, didn't all this happen *after* Switzerland voted to give women the vote??
7 posted on 12/01/2001 1:02:53 PM PST by marktwain
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8 posted on 12/01/2001 1:03:34 PM PST by t-shirt
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Second Amendment bump!
9 posted on 12/01/2001 1:06:09 PM PST by t-shirt
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It bothers me that Europeans will leave themselves completely vulnerable, they won't pay their taxes to have strong armies and defense but when things go bad, they will expect Americans to go over and save them.
10 posted on 12/01/2001 1:06:32 PM PST by FITZ
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'Tis one of the key battlefields for the Klinktoons and their type. Though Switzerland is a tiny land-locked nation, it is one of the key linchpins in the capitalist model.
11 posted on 12/01/2001 1:08:29 PM PST by steveegg
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"Second Amendment bump!"

I'll second that...MUD

12 posted on 12/01/2001 1:10:45 PM PST by Mudboy Slim
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this is the begining of world wide gun control.
13 posted on 12/01/2001 1:12:42 PM PST by Rustynailww
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14 posted on 12/01/2001 1:13:32 PM PST by t-shirt
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The Globalist/UN types can't stand the fine example of a nation that Switzerland is where all men are armed & free and members of the militia, and thus a nation that cannot controlled by the UN and the tyranny it represents.
15 posted on 12/01/2001 1:17:16 PM PST by t-shirt
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But the Swiss don't expect America or anyone to defend them.
16 posted on 12/01/2001 1:18:23 PM PST by t-shirt
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17 posted on 12/01/2001 1:22:04 PM PST by t-shirt
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Let's pray that level heads prevail in this wonderful country. Eagles Up!
18 posted on 12/01/2001 1:22:22 PM PST by 2Trievers
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Take it to the top.
19 posted on 12/01/2001 1:23:50 PM PST by Aeronaut
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NOW seems like an especially stupid time....
20 posted on 12/01/2001 1:28:33 PM PST by SCalGal
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