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NEW Gallup: Bush's Soaring Approval More Sustained Than Any In Presidential History
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Posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:37 PM PST by hawaiian

"President Bush's job approval rating shows no sign of decline. The latest Gallup poll, conducted Nov. 8-11, measures the president’s approval rating at 87%. Bush’s job approval has remained at 86% or higher in seven polls conducted over two months. In the history of Gallup polling, no prior presidents have been able to sustain their high approval levels, with no apparent decline, this long." Full Story


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To: Leroy S. Mort
No prior President has had such a slime-bag of a predecessor to measure against.

But you can bet the slime-bag predecessor is green, green, green. Poor Hitlary. Wah, wah, wah.

61 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:39 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: arthurus
Is Bush the first to get this problem [leaking] under control?

Bush is the first President that got to see the mechanics of leaking from the underside, when he was working in Daddy's Admin. A lot of Bush 41's staff was busy scoring points with the media by leaking, and fool enough to assume that Bush 43 was a dumbo who could not pour sand out of a boot if you printed the instructions on the heel. And Bush 43, who has never been afraid to let someone underestimate him watched and listened. And took what he learned to his administration.

It ain't just Dems that underestimated the man.

62 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:39 PM PST by No Truce With Kings
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To: rockfish59
I wonder if Peter Jennings is choking on his lettuce roll.
63 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:39 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: henbane
MABOLGAMPAU CYLCH ALAW CYBI

Help me out here, I left my Enigma at home today.

64 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:39 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: hawaiian
I can hear Clinton whining from here.

BOOOYAH!!!

65 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:44 PM PST by Yankee
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To: okie01
I never truly believed Clinton's polls. They just didn't fit the creep.
66 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:45 PM PST by freekitty
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To: ladyinred
Didn't he (Clinton) leave office with the highest approval rating of any President

No. The highest rating since the beginning of presidential polling was Bush Sr. during the Gulf War. Clinton never got close (although the media would have you believe he did). No one has ever hit the rating of GW.

67 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:45 PM PST by GVnana
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To: xm177e2
And THIS is the guy that Hillary "The-Unaccomplished-Foul-Mouthed-Carpetbagger-Senator-From-Hell" Clinton is going to run against?

Well, bring it on, Mrs. 'No-Talent-Witch-From-East-Hollywood'!!!!!!!!!!!

68 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:45 PM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: hawaiian
What is most awesome about this is that for eight years, Clinton obsessed about his poll numbers. That was pretty much all he cared about (other than getting BJ's from the hired help). Yet he hardly ever was able to get much above 60%, despite presiding during the greatest economic boom in our history.

And here we have President Bush, who probably doesn't spend five seconds thinking about his poll numbers, effortlessly scoring an 85+% approval rating just by being himself. And this during a time of great crisis and economic troubles. Boy, that must burn Clinton up!

69 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:47 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: hawaiian
I have a pretty good idea of what the clintoons are thinking right now, but I wonder what e-gore the recount king is thinking.....
70 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:47 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: Senator Pardek; sit-rep
I agree -- just like after WWII

Given the nature of our War on Nouns to date ... just when do you expect to see an "after" to the War on Terrorism?

Buckle your chin straps, the troops are in for a long ride,
advised Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.


Longer Deployments will Sustain War on Terrorism Says General Myers


Cheney: Terror War Far From Over

Vice President Dick Cheney said Wednesday the military defeats inflicted on the Taliban in Afghanistan mark a ``very good beginning'' to the longer-term struggle against terrorism

"Struggle"? Is it war or not? Are these military tribunals for the (innately leftist sounding) "Struggle" or are we going to actually declare a war against an actual enemy?

Americans Seem Committed to Winning War on Terrorism - favor using combat troops for five years plus
Following in the vein of the "struggle" ... we have "five year plans" ALSO heartily consented to if the polls are any indication ...

and the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll shows that most Americans appear strongly committed to winning the war on terrorism regardless of the time and consequences involved. Strong majorities of Americans say they are willing to send large numbers of ground troops into Afghanistan and to engage in combat for several years. Almost half say the United States should continue fighting regardless of how many American military personnel are killed. Nearly nine in 10 Americans say they have a clear idea of what this war is ...

War on terrorism includes fight against poverty (among other things): Powell
In one of my favorite bits of Collectivist Objective, we have no less than Colin Powell seeking a tie-in of our War on Terrorism to the War on Poverty (the latter which has been ongoing MY ENTIRE LIFE to no particular effect if you discount the MILLIONS we've aborted in order to save the economic burden of having more Americans on the planet)

The war against international terrorism must be fought on many fronts, including reducing poverty and improving health and education, US Secretary of State Colin Powell told the Security Council on Monday.

Senator Byrd Threatens War on Terrorism? (my title)
I guess the one thing we know for certain -- given passage of the PATRIOT act and items like this -- it's going to cost us plenty in DOLLARS as well as LIBERTIES to fight this War on Terrorism here at home.

Byrd made his own threat to do just that. He said he is going to attach a $20 billion domestic security plan to this year's defense spending bill, a bill the president desperately needs passed to continue a war on terror that is costing the military approximately $1.2 billion per day. "The last train out of the station will be the defense appropriations bill, and so if all else fails then I intend to attempt to put this homeland security bill on the last appropriations bill," Byrd said.

Rumsfeld: War on terrorism will 'take time'
Also sounding the note of Perpetuity is Rumsfeld ... a hawk who wants our War on Terrorism prosecuted clearly and unambiguously ... save for actually declaring war against a person or nation, of course.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld defended the pace of the war on terrorism Thursday, reiterating his message that the war "will take time.""In the end, war is not about statistics, deadlines, short attention spans or 24-hour news cycles," he said. "It's about will, the projection of will, the clear, unambiguous determination of the president of the United States -- and let there be no doubt about that -- and the American people to see this through to certain victory."

In case the War on Terrorism doesn't last long enough to excuse permanent measures, there's always the 'next war' for which we're already preparing as we prosecute this one ...

The surprises we will encounter a decade from now will very likely be different from the one that struck us on Sept. 11. ... Yes, we must win the war on terrorism. But as we do so, we must also prepare for the next war. We owe it to our children and grandchildren.

Rumsfeld: Beyond the War on Terrorism

No end in sight. But that's cool because (thanks to the diligence of our partners against terrorism, the Soviets, there's a WORLDWIDE panoply of terrorists on which to wage this war ... economic and other "national interests" guiding our decisions to, say, ignore Ireland and the terrorist they harbor while we pound Third Worlders along the pipelines in the Middle East.

U.S. officials consider future targets in worldwide war on terrorism
The war on terrorism is focused on Afghanistan. But already, America is sending military advisers to the Philippines to rout out terrorists. Iraq could become a target if it's linked to any attacks. And the war could carry even farther -- perhaps to Somalia, Chechnya or Sudan, and perhaps quickly -- if Osama bin Laden tried to slip out of Afghanistan. Eventually, the war on terrorism could have a long target list, one that stretches into all corners of the world.

And why not ... when our "War on Terrorism" is actually a police action veiled with selective military engagement in one grand "War Against Hate Crimes"

The Halfhearted War Against Terrorism Can't Be Won

The war on terrorism can’t be won in its current form. It is impossible. We are fighting an abstraction. Terror has existed as long as man and my guess is that it will last as long as man does. Listening to some talk about getting the evildoers and eliminating terrorism is as silly as it is sad. We may as well wage war against evil everywhere it surfaces in human nature. Good luck.


Rotsa ruck on reversing ANY Executive Order ... particularly those, like the military tribunals, passed for abridging certain liberties and due process in light of our "war footing".

I make a lot of noise about declaring Wars on Nouns ... this one's different, though, in many terrifying and brutal respects which shall only become clear once we realize the full extent of the "transformation" to which we've given our express consent.

"Terrorism" has been on the table a long, long time. Having increased their spending on terrorism a mere 1,000% in the mid-sixties, the architects of world terror then set about during detente to condition the Western mind to the upsides inherent in combatting the terror they'd set in motion.

Now that we are firmly embarked in the Period of Escalating Violence, it's time to put longheld plans in motion:

But I raised it in the context, and I don't want to delay all of this, but I raised it in the context -- I came back from a conference on terrorism back in 1980. I was over in, not Berlin, I was in Bonn, and I went to a conference on terrorism and I spoke there, Henry Kissinger was there, Helmut Schmidt was there, and as I came out of the hotel I saw the hotel was surrounded by APCs, armored personnel carriers. And all the soldiers or policemen had automatic weapons.

I looked at that and I said, I wonder, would any American city allow VIPs to be protected by virtual tanks in the street? And it had been just after a guy named Schleier, a banker, had been assassinated, stuffed in his trunk of a Mercedes car, so there was real tension over there, and there was some real protection underway. I said no, it will never happen in the United States.

Then I said well wait a minute. What happens if the terrorists come to the United States and the bombs start going off, the killing starts here?

Would we as the American people, say protect our liberties or protect our lives? We've never had to have that debate at this point.

And so when you have an Oklahoma City bombing that's taken place, and you have others who may not be domestic but international, what will be the reaction of the American people?

Will they say the government's responsibility is to protect us, and we say absolutely, but how do we do that?

Do we do it through the local police? The National Guard? The Guard and Reserve? Or do we call upon the military in extremists to provide protection and to help with what they call consequence management?

DefenseLink -- Cohen Breakfast Meeting with Reporters in Washington, D.C. (1/11/2001)

They had no intention of debate on the subject when -- as with all major erosions of liberty the last 50 years -- a Crisis could compel the consent of the sheeple.

And there's going to be NO ONE to stop them, for on all the Big Questions (like PNTR for China, Terrorism, Clinton's "by the book" handling of Waco, the "national interests" at stake in Kosovo) ... The Message They're Sending is Essentially the Same Thing/

That's why the likes of Ziggy B. can sit in with Scowcroft and speak in tongues together on how Serbia is "a microcosm of what the world is about to be"

"The world", baby ... don't say you weren't warned.

_________________________

Hey Sit-Rep ... trust all is well and this answers where I'm coming from.

It's never going to be over but -- as so beautifully portrayed in Gilliam's Brazil -- it all becomes rather "normal" after a while.

Suspicion Breed Confidence

71 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:50 PM PST by Askel5
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To: M. Thatcher
Yeah. "They" are. Your posts grow more paranoid by the day.

Dropped some info in the thread to explain exactly where I'm coming from and precisely who I think "they" are.

Feel free to take a whack at it. As always, I'll be DEE-LIGHTED to find I'm all wet.

72 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:52 PM PST by Askel5
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To: SunStar
You seem to be falling prey to the red-diaper party line.

I think that may just be your personal interpretation ... at least I don't cheer ANYTHING described as "sustainable".

Words are important.

73 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:53 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Whatever you say, Eyeore.

Thankfully, you will never be elected to anything.

74 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:53 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: hawaiian
Thank you so much for posting this. Would like to shout on the highest roof "I TOLD YOU SO".
75 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:53 PM PST by StarFan
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To: KLT
I take that 280 kByte post to mean you're excited about something?
76 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:54 PM PST by captain11
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To: M. Thatcher
Whatever you say, Eyeore.

After seeing post 71 I was thinking 'Human Sominex' but I like Eyeore better! LOL

77 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:54 PM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Askel5
The "war on nouns" is the wittiest comment I've read on Free Republic.

Everything is left to chance. My fellow Americans tend to do the opposite of the Bourbons: "They learn—then forget."

78 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:54 PM PST by lavrenti
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To: M. Thatcher
Whatever you say, Eyeore.

LOL! Now THAT's funny! (I suspect others think I'm Tigger!)

Thankfully, you will never be elected to anything.

(Schwew ... agreed!)

Seriously, M.Thatcher ... if you get the goods on some 'end in sight' you let me know.

79 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:54 PM PST by Askel5
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To: lavrenti; BigWaveBetty
My fellow Americans tend to do the opposite of the Bourbons: "They learn—then forget."

Or even better ... thanks to BigWaveBetty's weighing in with the "Sominex" necessary! ... the West just "goes to sleep" like the leninists knew they would.

80 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:55 PM PST by Askel5
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