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A NEW SMALLPOX VACCINE FROM ABORTIONS? SMALLPOX VACCINE TO USE FETAL CELLS
EWTN NEWS/ Catholic World News ^ | 11/2/01 | EWTN NEWS/ Catholic World News

Posted on 11/02/2001 1:14:30 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

2-Nov-2001 -- EWTN Pro-Family News

A NEW SMALLPOX VACCINE FROM ABORTIONS?

(EWTNews) - The Washington Post announced the award of a contract for the development of a new smallpox vaccine to Oravax/Acambis Corporation. The proposal presented to the CDC and FDA would encompass using "human fibroblasts."

In checking the proposed ingredients through the CDC it was found that they intend to use aborted fetal cell line MRC-5 as the cell substrate for growing the virus. The CDC report also stated that other established animal substrates such as chick embryo, (used in Rabies vaccine) Vero Cell Lines and FRHL-2 Cell lines were viable alternatives as well. The FDA stated that they have verified the reports, but also indicated they would most likely use more than one manufacturer and no final decisions have been made.

We do know that testing has already begun using MRC-5 in Phase 1 trials.

Says Debi Vinnedge, spokesperson for the Children of God for Life, a Pro-Life outreach source.

For over 30 years, our country has been quietly producing vaccines from human cell lines derived from abortion. There are six commonly used vaccines: Polio, Rabies, Mumps, Rubella (MMR), Chickenpox and Hepatitis-A all of which were propagated from the lung tissue of two aborted babies, one male, one female. Of these, three have NO ALTERNATIVE SOURCE: Rubella (MMR-Measles, Mumps, Rubella), Chickenpox and Hepatitis-A.

It is not that the pharmaceutical companies had to use aborted children as their source; they simply opted to do so. The United Kingdom was successful in obtaining alternatives for both Rubella and Hepatitis-A, but these products are not available in the United States and unless there is a market, there is little incentive for the pharmaceutical companies to respond.

"Immediate action is needed now!" states Debi.

"We do not want our families being forced by the government to use a critical vaccine that is derived from aborted fetal tissue."

If there is an epidemic or national crisis, you will NOT be able to use religious exemptions. Please express your concern. Ask that the policy makers consider the moral consciences of hundreds of thousands of Americans who have already voiced their objection to the currently used vaccines derived from aborted fetal tissue.

Catholic World News Service
Daily News Briefs
[NOV. 02, 2001]

* SMALLPOX VACCINE TO USE FETAL CELLS

WASHINGTON, Nov 2, 01 (CWNews.com) -- A US government order for smallpox vaccine could involve the use of tissues taken from aborted human beings, the American Life League (ALL) has revealed.

ALL has issued an "action alert" to American pro-life activists, after learning that the federal government had awarded a contract for smallpox vaccine to the Oravax/Acambis Corporation. ALL research established that the company would use cell lines from aborted babies-- although alternatives such as cells taken from chicken embryos are available.

The smallpox vaccine is being stockpiled in case of a "bioterror" attack on the US, which could require widespread inoculation to prevent the spread of the disease. "If there is an epidemic or national crisis, you will not be able to use religious exemptions," ALL warned. Thus, unless other forms of the vaccine are readily available, citizens could confront a legal requirement to take a vaccine derived from the cells harvested after abortion. The organization urged pro-life activists to lobby for the development of other, morally acceptable forms of the vaccine.

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The organization urged pro-life activists to lobby for the development of other, morally acceptable forms of the vaccine

1 posted on 11/02/2001 1:14:30 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: patent; *Catholic_list
Any analysis of this situation, from the standpoint of ethics/moral theology?
2 posted on 11/02/2001 1:16:06 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
Sounds a little fishy to me. I suppose the pro-aborts have been busy coming up with something to *justify* their position. It'll go a little something like, "See, choice has saved the world. Now don't all you religious extremists think you've been holding us back all these years?"
3 posted on 11/02/2001 1:21:09 PM PST by GenXFreedomFighter
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To: father_elijah
More signs of the times...
4 posted on 11/02/2001 1:21:19 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: proud2bRC
ALL research established that the company would use cell lines from aborted babies--

Cell lines? Is this like the "embryonic stem cell lines?" IOW, the lines are already in existence?

5 posted on 11/02/2001 1:23:47 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: proud2bRC
If the only way to get a smallpox vaccine was through aborted human fetuses, then would it be acceptable? Acceptable if smallpox was currently rampant in the U.S. If you had smallpox?
6 posted on 11/02/2001 1:24:30 PM PST by Operation Infinite Jumble
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To: proud2bRC
Repugnant abomination comes to mind.
The industry would feed us abortions if they could get away with it.....
7 posted on 11/02/2001 1:29:41 PM PST by martian_22
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To: proud2bRC
These threads should talk to one another...

Model health law empowers states : Drugs, quarantine could be forced
8 posted on 11/02/2001 1:34:37 PM PST by Black Agnes
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If a smallpox vaccine is made from this material (I can't even say it) then I would reject the vaccine. I would rather take my chances with the disease than take an objectionable vaccine. There is no justification, rationalization, or impetus that can get me to accept this kind of "science."
9 posted on 11/02/2001 1:49:09 PM PST by bluesagewoman
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To: proud2bRC
We do know that testing has already begun using MRC-5 in Phase 1 trials.
Is this one of the 60 lines that Bush allowed as already existing?

patent  +AMDG

10 posted on 11/02/2001 2:00:24 PM PST by patent
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To: Operation Infinite Jumble
I do not feel that such desecration of a human baby could possibly be blessed to the use for me and mine.

I really think that there will be unseen ramifications to this hideous evil.

11 posted on 11/02/2001 3:19:51 PM PST by MIgramma
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To: patent
Honestly I'm not sure.
12 posted on 11/02/2001 6:28:00 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Askel5
ping.
13 posted on 11/02/2001 6:40:02 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Romulus
Hey ... always an upside.

Pay no attention to the wobbly legs and swiss-cheese brains of other mammals who eat their own.

I've no doubt that Human Cannibalism -- particularly our Clean Hands sort -- will be just the ticket for that much-anticipated Quantum Leap on which the Evols are counting.

14 posted on 11/02/2001 8:15:43 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
"Quarantine" means 40 days. Have you laid in a supply of dog food and beans 'n' franks like Peggy Noonan says?
15 posted on 11/02/2001 8:30:52 PM PST by Romulus
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To: proud2bRC
I don't pretend to understand all of this, but I do know I will never take a vaccine made from a murdered baby.
16 posted on 11/02/2001 8:58:01 PM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: proud2bRC
Require labeling of all vaccines that are made using aborted fetal tissues.
17 posted on 11/02/2001 9:22:31 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Askel5
The vaccine already exists. It's just rotting on pallets in Amish country. Go CDC!
18 posted on 11/02/2001 9:23:18 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Romulus
Peggy's got a certain pulse on things, doesn't she?

I've was reading "A Geranium in the Window" and other excerpts today on the plane ... once they'd sent my freakin' shoes through the scanner and I was free to board upon a third requested showing of ID. (The stewardess behind me was reading "A Time to Die", my tome was entitled "Assisted Suicide and Euthanasia")

I find it extremely hard to believe that a culture so comfortable with killing for no Particular Good or Merciful Reasons (as had Germany's eminent, if not "Nazi", physicians) will not find it expedient to use Whatever Means Necessary to fight the War on Terrorism.

Even if it means giving humans beings a more "humane" hoof & mouth treatment and piling up carcasses for the crematoriums with Clean Hands and suitably removed from photogs whose images we might find disturbing.

Sort of like the 1.5 million Americans we churn through the abortuaries each year in the name of Compassion and Choice.

We've not chosen a path ... we've locked onto the Rails.

German asylums and psych hospitals managed to liquidate with all due efficiency about 3/4's of their patients on the average. The esteemed H______ hospital celebrated their 10,000th gassing death with a bottle of beer for all employees -- right down to the secretaries -- involved.

Piece of cake. Bring on Death's Percentages of which I spoke. We only pick up speed from here on out and -- look around -- there's no one left save the ragtag sons of Brutus to put up a fight. How long do you think it will be until we stick out like sore thumbs? I, for one, need to work on my bent neck and downcast eyes for the Security Scanners. I don't wish to be wanded and touched and taking off my shoes every time I fly, do I?

It's Uncle Sam's face -- not Hitler's, not Stalin's, not Mao's -- what's going to be slapped on the unprecedented evil unleashed from here on out.

God save us from Compassion, Inc.

19 posted on 11/03/2001 6:25:30 PM PST by Askel5
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To: proud2bRC
For over 30 years, our country has been quietly producing vaccines from human cell lines derived from abortion. There are six commonly used vaccines: Polio, Rabies, Mumps, Rubella (MMR), Chickenpox and Hepatitis-A all of which were propagated from the lung tissue of two aborted babies, one male, one female. Of these, three have NO ALTERNATIVE SOURCE: Rubella (MMR-Measles, Mumps, Rubella), Chickenpox and Hepatitis-A.

Actually, there is an alternative to the MMR. It requires 3 different shots, twice, however. The bigger problem is that so few people know the significance of the cell line used for the Measles part of the MMR. I didn't when my kids got it (before I went to medical school) and when I got it (on the first day of medical school). As soon as I found out the significance of the cell lines (unfortunately, after I was in practice for a while), I made sure that the parents of my patients knew what I would have wanted to know.

The fact that so many have had the vaccines developed using fetal cell tissue lines does not mean that we should accept future use of these cells. There are other cell lines available and suitable, including those based on chicken eggs and monkey kidneys, I believe.

Remember, President Bush was deluded into thinking we accept this practice, and that was the reason he ok'd limited embryonic stem cell experiments. We must let our representatives in government including Secretary Thomason, our Senators, our Congressmen, and even our President, know that we are *not* accepting.

This may need to become a First Amendment issue: the freedom of practice of religion. BUT - it should be a human rights issue. The protection of human life transcends religious beliefs, it is pertinent to the life of each human.

20 posted on 11/03/2001 7:21:02 PM PST by hocndoc
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