Posted on 10/09/2001 8:10:58 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
In a series tracing the history of drug use, we begin our trip tracing the rise of marijuana and synthetic amphetamines. Marijuana, from the Indian hemp plant, has been used worldwide as a source of rope, cloth, and paper; its medicinal qualities were first documented 4,000 years ago in China. But it's best known as the drug of choice of the 1960s. WWII U.S. troops were given an estimated 200 million amphetamines to fight drowsiness and battle fatigue and they're still used to fight depression.
An addict is just a loser!
They cost us all money due exclusively to their abusive risky behavior!
Nobody wants to pay more by legalizing it.
Get sober. Get a life and job. Pay taxes and start a nice book club! LOL
That should tell you right there how safe drinking to the point of drunk is considered.
Since you are the one advocating punishment by law for those who choose to simply use drugs and even become addicted, and since you want to use my tax money to do it, shouldn't you first show that the benefit of making some drugs illegal outwieghs the burden?
I think it's time that the Drug Warriors answered some serious questions. You've been spending Billions, imprisoning Millions, killing Thousands, and have yet to show any net gain in either interdiction or decreased consumer demand. 40 years has been ample time in which to look at the net results and draw the conclusions that Prohibition is a failure on every level, except insofar as it relates to degrading the depth and breadth of individual freedom and the Constitutional Guarantees bequeathed to each and every citizen of the U.S.
Forgetting for a moment that every man has certain inalienable rights which cannot even be taken away "democratically", including the right to govern his own state of mind, if you can show on a balance of probabilities that the stated aims of Prohibition have been or are being met with any measure of success WHATSOEVER, I will agree that you are entitled to further public support ($$$) for your prohibition war. Until you prove it, NOT ONE MORE DIME SHOULD BE SPENT AND NOT ONE MORE PERSON SHOULD BE IMPRISONED FOR IT. NAZI.
The ADDICT WARRIORS want their drugs and that is that. They are hardly able to control themselves or this would be a non issue. It is so obvious. They are enslaved by their drugs.
All their talks is about facilitationg the longing of their addiction. Slaves!
Sometimes slaves in the name of Liberty! LOL ROTFLMAO!
By the way, if you are not with America, you are with the Terrorists.
Figure it out. Illegal Drug Use often = Financing Terrorism like that at WTC.
Means you could be with the terrorist possibly depending on where you juice up from!
Your thought process is amoral and I can't agree with it.
Is that what passes for a clever argument and a smooth misdirection to the reader from the Drug Warriors these days?
At no point have I said legalization or lack thereof determines the moral conclusions to be drawn from any particular act. Rather it is you who takes such a position in claiming that the reason legalized Alcohol is morally preferable to illegal drugs is because the drugs are illegal. Following that logic (which most posters here are capable of doing despite your feeble attempts to sew confusion), it is you who would be forced to concede that RAPE would be OK to[sic]", if it were legal - just like with Alcohol.
As you know (and I'm not repeating this for your benefit, but rather to ensure that no one is confused by your attempts to deliberately misdirect them with logical fallacies and red-herrings), Rape is not a harmless, consensual act. The recipient is unwillingly harmed by the perpetrator.
However, simply taking a mind altering chemical such as Alcohol or Cannabis does not harm the user, and is consensual (that last big word means voluntary, which means - never mind...). In short, there is no moral difference between Alcohol and Cannabis - except that Alcohol kills people, but there is a huge and obvious difference between prohibiting harmless states of mind and prohibiting RAPE.
Then again, your type gets off on prohibiting states of mind dont they? God knows it's all about telling people what to think, how to act, what to eat, what to own, who to trust, who to worship. Hands off my rights and my hard-earned $$ you mosquito.
Please don't reply. I'm not interested in your stupid games.
You seem to have deliberately missed my point again. Oh well, that's typical of thieves and liars. Let's try again: It is not open to you to simply assert that stealing my money and imprisoning my fellow taxpayers for smoking pot prevents the costs and violence associated with the drug trade from being "much higher, by far". You are the A$$h*le who wants the right to imprison, ruin and even kill free people for taking drugs, and you want my Tax dollars to do it. Until you can prove, not simply allege, but prove that the benefits to society outweight the damage that has been done by your drug war, you remain a thief and a liar.
Rape is a violent act of force against an unwillingly victim.
Peacefully engaging in private vice, with consenting adults, is not violent, nor is force used -- unless the government gets involved. It is they who are like-unto rapists. It is they, who engage in acts of force, theft and violence.
Of course he isn't. He's a moral and intellectual coward---like every Drug Warrior.
Adults currently have that right with respect to alcohol. Do you support banning alcohol?
That is dumb, dangerous and costly to society and all your family.
Equally true for legal alcohol. Do you support banning alcohol?
We don't need to grow addicts in this country.
I answered this statement in the post you're replying to: "No difference between alcohol and other drugs there: we don't benefit from alcohol addicts either."
The question before us is whether they SHOULD be illegal. Are you arguing that "Drugs should be illegal because they are illegal"?
and there is evidently no such moderation level in any form of illegal drugs. One puff and you are altered? Probably!
You are ignorant. As I stated, a single quickly-exhaled puff leaves one as unaffected as a single sip of alcohol.
Heh...guess again
U.S. CUSTOMS SERVICE SHIFTS FOCUS TO TERRORISM
The new chief of the U.S. Customs Service said Tuesday that terrorism has replaced drug smuggling as the agency's top priority, and that since Sept. 11 he had redeployed hundreds of agents to provide round-the-clock inspections at the Canadian border to prevent terrorists from entering the country.
As a result of the redeployments along the Canadian border, a preferred entryway for terrorists in the past, Customs Commissioner Robert C. Bonner said the agency has been forced to cut the number of inspectors dedicated to special units that search for illegal drugs and for exports of high-technology products. The alert has been raised along the border with Mexico as well, but the Customs Service had already increased its presence there in recent years.
-San Jose Mercury News
More of that great Canadian bud is on the way!
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