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Sen. John Edwards: Intelligence Expert? Thread II on Edwards-NOT a moderate
FoxNews,MSNBC, various | Oct. 8, 2001 | Me + various

Posted on 10/08/2001 9:18:58 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

In a time when we need to pull together as a nation, Democrats offer up one of their most divisive Senators, a man with no military background, a medical malpractice lawyer 'til his '98 Senate run, as an intelligence expert. O'Reilly and Russert both featured Sen. John Edwards yesterday and refered to him as an intelligence expert. On Sept. 11th I found a ray of hope in the thought that this ambulance chaser was now sidelined while the country dealt with reality. That his black vs. white, seniors vs. young, rich vs. poor, evil Big Business vs. workers, polluters vs. envirals, the little people vs. the Powerful, divisive, divisive, divisive repetitive MO would no longer play in an America uniting against the terrorists. There is nothing moderate about this leftist darling of the media, Trail Lawyers, Sierra Club, NEA, Planned Parenthood, socialists.

For more links, info, rants see:
Sen. John Edwards, "It's War." Thread 1

Making the Law Work for Ordinary People
From Sen. Edward's speech to law students at Drake University, March 31, 2001.

"Senator John McCain and I have worked for months on a Patient's Bill of Rights. A law that would empower children like Ethan Bederick1 and like the Bederick family, people like you, give you more control over your own health care. That's what this is, that's what it's all about. And the only people on the other side are the big HMOs and the insurance companies. And it's a war. It's a war. On one side, you've got what the American people want, what they deserve, and what they need. And on the other side, you've got the big HMOs and insurance companies.

Exactly the same thing is happening with campaign finance. Exactly the same thing. Because what we're about is trying to return power in this government, in this democracy, to you. That's where it's supposed to be. Our government is not supposed to be bought,3 our politicians are not suppose to get these huge campaign contributions. That's not the way our country works. We're in a war, because these types will fight, with every bit of their being and all of their resources, to make sure that they maintain that power that they now have. This is the battle that we have. This is the fight that we have to take on."


...."There were a lot of people in Washington who were not civil, who were extraordinarily partisan, who were partisan for the sake of being partisan. And I though something needed to be done about that. And we actually did some things. We formed a Centrist Coalition in the Senate to work together."
"I didn't go to Washington to go up there and schmooze the people...). But I went there to fight for the people who sent me there6....because without me, they've got nothing. They've got nothing."
"You know, most of the people in Iowa aren't a member of a special interest group.7 Most of the people in the state don't have a lobbyist in Washington. So who speaks for them? Who speaks for those people in North Carolina who I grew up with?

Those are the people we have a responsibility to, because the only hope they have, the only hope they have, is that the people they vote for - when they go in that voting booth and vote - the only hope they have, is that the people they vote for, the people who are elected, will go to Washington and ignore that stuff and fight for them. It's the only chance they've got."

John Edwards on "The Law"
"Now, we have many students here tonight who are going to be making decisions about what they do...And I would say a couple of things to you.

Number one: do everything in your power to use the law as the extraordinary, ennobling, enabling, powerful, and sometimes rectifying tool that it can be. You have the power to change people's lives, to effect their lives, in a positive way, in a positive way."


"But the thing you should never do, ever, is to underestimate the power of the law and the power that you have. Because remember, the law is nothing but words on a piece of paper. When we finish writing a law in Washington, it is words on a piece of paper. You give it life. You make it work. You make it change people's lives. It's a wonderful and extraordinary opportunity and never underestimate the power of the law, when in the hands of a courageous, principled advocate, to change things."
"I know that this law school has taught you to respect and revere the law as the sacred thing it is."
"I revere the law. I think it's a sacred thing. It is the great equalizer out there in the world. And it can do amazing things. It can do sweeping things. Such as provide health care for millions of senior citizens all over this country."
(The law) "It is the reason that the powerless in our country can take on the most powerful. It is the reason that regular people, regular people can be on equal footing with the most well-connected and powerful people in the world."
("And the people who send us to Washington)...They don't care about that crowd in Washington. What they care about is what are we doing for them. What are we doing for them? That's the reason we're there."
"There was a little girl in North Carolina named Valerie Lakey who suffered a terrible accident. Some of you may have heard about it. It was on the news. But she sat on a faulty swimming pool drain and literally had her intestines pulled out..

"And here we are again, here we are again. One little girl, one little family against a very
powerful company. But the most amazing thing happens when you walk into a courtroom..."



Emphasis on power, mine.

NOVAK: I was interested, Mark, that he absolutely said he is not a liberal, he's a centrist, but then he endorsed the entire Gore so- called populist program. So what -- the kind of programs that Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman referred to as liberal are now labeled as populist. Maybe there's been a change in labels and not in substance. Evans & Novak, CNN-8/26/00

John Edwards, the people's Senator or the liberal's Senator? Boone Report
Edwards rated one of most liberal Senators Link
National Federation of Independent Business rating:Senator Jesse Helms 100, Senator John Edwards Link
Against allowing seniors to privatize part of their soc. sec..Link
Edwards pro-abortion , including partial birth.
Supports: AmeriCorps , increase in minimum wage, NEA rating of 100%, pro-Test Ban Treaty, and Nat. End. Arts, voted against John Ashcroft and Gale Norton, for background checks at gun shows, gun locks, the Brady Bill and ban on "semiautomatics", against reforming government regulations on business. National Taxpayer's Union rates Edwards an "F", voted against the farmers at Klamath Falls, against the Boy Scouts, Edwards starts his own PAC, hypocrite, Aug. 20, 2001.


Remarks by Senator John Edwards NATIONAL BAPTIST CONGRESS of CHRISTIAN EDUCATION
Charlotte, North Carolina Thursday, June 21, 2001:
"I believe that every child has worth and dignity in the eyes of God. I know that abiding faith in every soul is what guides the Baptist Convention. And it's what guides my work in the Congress. " (is pro partial birth abortion).
"Let me tell you: I'm outraged by what happened in Florida, particularly to African American voters. It was wrong – it was undemocratic – and we've got to see that it never, ever happens again. "
And I want to work with President Bush as well. But I'll be honest: I'm mighty concerned about his plans for the country. Instead of helping working families, he often sides with the powerful special interests.

In case he hasn't noticed, they don't need the help.

And so President Bush – and all of us – must choose. Will we stand for regular people, or will we allow the special interests to stand in their way?

Will we stand for patients and doctors, or HMO bureaucrats?

Will we stand for the rights of every single voter – or for those who don't mind if thousands, even millions of votes fall through the cracks?


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Intelligence expert?
1 posted on 10/08/2001 9:18:58 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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2 posted on 10/08/2001 9:35:57 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
As a totally devoted pubbie, I do have to say that I did see Edwards on the O'Reilly show and I have to tell you, this guy has charisma! He is a cutie! Ok flame away! :)
3 posted on 10/08/2001 9:47:00 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: RoseofTexas
Rose, I know he does have charisma and women will vote for his good looks and charm, never stopping to listen to or understand his divisive, socialist rhetoric. After women voted in Clinton, I seriously thought about starting a petition to repeal our right to vote. Please see thread 1 and check out the links, read his quotes and check out his voting record. This man who supposedly respects the law NEVER brings up the Constitution during his many speeches to numerous law school classes.

Alec Baldwin and Julia Roberts are good-looking charmers, too (sorry, I was forced to use such harsh measures (^:).

4 posted on 10/08/2001 10:00:53 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Cautor,Freedom'sWorthIt,billbears,Howlin,grayson50,TC Rider,Lancey Howard,oneway,NCSteve,Lee's Ghost
Care to help Freep FoxNews and MSNBC?
5 posted on 10/08/2001 10:03:37 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: RightOnline,hgro,F.J.Mitchell,timestax,Landru,ChaseR,Mudboy Slim,Snow Bunny,ALOHA RONNIE,gonewt
Intelligence expert? Please help Freep FoxNews and MSNBC. The Trial Lawyers / Dems. /socialists have found their boy...and this divisive con man is not what the country needs right now!
6 posted on 10/08/2001 10:09:34 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump for later reading.
7 posted on 10/08/2001 10:14:35 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thank you for the ping about this. Dems just keep showing us what slime they are. I will write letters you csn count on it. Thanks again.
8 posted on 10/08/2001 10:20:26 AM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thank you for the ping about this. Dems just keep showing us what slime they are. I will write letters you csn count on it. Thanks again.
9 posted on 10/08/2001 10:21:01 AM PDT by Snow Bunny
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"I do have to say that I did see Edwards on the O'Reilly show and I have to tell you, this guy has charisma! He is a cutie!"

Well.
There ya have it.
Now, what more could possibly be said.

We're doomed.

...you do realize that, right?

10 posted on 10/08/2001 10:40:23 AM PDT by Landru
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Oh, yeah! This dimpled darlin' is a real 'security expert,' as evidenced by his firm support for Al Gore in the election fiasco, and his remarks referenced above about how 'wrong' what "happened in Florida" was.

If Al Gore had not gutted the Commission's recommendations on airline security in order to get 10's of thousands of dollars in campaign finance funds from the airlines, the twin towers might still be standing, the Pentagon not invaded, and the brave people over Pennsylvania might still be alive!

Any journalist worth his salt when interviewing this so-called "security expert" should confront him with Ms. Cummocks' lawsuit against Al Gore over Gore's dishonest mishandling of the Commission's recommendations on airlines security.

On the other hand, it wouldn't do any good, for Edwards would sweet talk himself right out of it.

If he had his way, Gore would have been able to steal the election.

Funny, isn't it, that this trial lawyer from NC, with absolutely no political experience in any office, skated into the Senate in January and, within weeks, became a "star" in the inner circle of Clinton defenders during the impeachment trial, going on to become a major media spokesman for the Gore gang in Florida. How did he out rank Senators who had been there for years? After all, he was a relative "nobody" (like Clinton) from a sleepy little mill town in upper Moore County, NC, whose only claim to fame was going to college and taking on insurance companies so he could get rich enough to run for office.

11 posted on 10/08/2001 10:44:11 AM PDT by loveliberty
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To: Snow Bunny
Dems just keep showing us what slime they are.

Ain't that the truth! Thanks for taking time out from your important canteen duties to comment and e-mail, Sweetie. (^: This guy's Trouble.

12 posted on 10/08/2001 10:55:48 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Landru
We're doomed.

...you do realize that, right?

NAHHH...we Freepers don't give up a good fight. (^:


Remember Florida!

13 posted on 10/08/2001 11:03:09 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Hey Girl, get used of the pretty-boy from NC. This puke was on the talking heads last night and is showing up more and more. He's got a smooth delivery, he's from the south and his background is law. Sound familiar? I've believed from the start that Edwards is being pimped by the DNC as the New Clinton. I have also heard that the NC democrats are trying to move up the date on their primary to give him a boost. When you think of it, who do the dems have for 2004?
14 posted on 10/08/2001 11:12:00 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: loveliberty
Funny, isn't it, that this trial lawyer from NC, with absolutely no political experience in any office, skated into the Senate in January and, within weeks, became a "star" in the inner circle of Clinton defenders during the impeachment trial, going on to become a major media spokesman for the Gore gang in Florida. How did he out rank Senators who had been there for years?

Check out thread 1, scroll down to read about his many friends in high places. The Dems. search 'em out when they're young and groom them carefully. Edward's first big mentor and employer, high powered Dem. trial lawyer of the rich and infamous- Wade Smith.


Democratic U.S. Senate candidate John Edwards announced three key campaign aides. Juliana Smoot, a Clinton native who has worked for U.S. Sens. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., is the finance director. Rob Black, a Raleigh native who has worked with the Burton-Marsteller public relations firm in Washington, is Edwards' press secretary, and David Ginsberg has been hired as research director. He worked on the research staff of the Democratic National Committee during the 1996 campaigns. Feb.18,98-Link

Two of Gore's closest advisers - political consultant Robert Shrum and pollster Harrison Hickman - were involved in Edwards' upset win against incumbent Republican Sen. Lauch Faircloth two years ago. Also reportedly touting Edwards is Charlotte banker Erskine Bowles, who served as President Clinton's White House chief of staff.

Gore was among the people who called Edwards in 1998 on the night of his victory over Faircloth.Link, Harrison Hickman: "Most Valuable Pollster".

The Senate Democrats' top recruiter, Bob Kerrey, acting on a scouting tip, persuaded Edwards to run for the Senate.

Tad Devine, powerful Dem. adman.

Democratic U.S. Sen. John Edwards has hired Jeff Lane, an aide to Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., as his new chief of staff. He replaces Karen Robb, who resigned in January to work for the White House legislative affairs office. Lane, a Duke law school graduate, is currently Daschle's administrative assistant in his Senate office. Link.

The Inner Circle of Advocates.

Harold Webb, the image expert who helped engineer the election of North Carolina's United States Senator John Edwards in 1998. Millennium Group, a statewide black voting bloc, headed by former Jim Hunt political appointee Alexander Killens

. Bankruptcy Judge Rich Leonard, Edwards and Leonard said their friendship began more than 20 years ago when they were clerks for the late District Judge Frank Dupree in Raleigh.


Tort Lawyers as Political Candidates:
Tort lawyers have been quite effective at getting themselves or their representatives elected to high office. On the national stage, trial lawyer John Edwards from North Carolina was elected United States Senator from North Carolina. It is reported that Edwards plowed some $6 million of his personal fortune earned from the practice of law into his election campaign....Democratic leaders have increasingly recruited trial lawyers as candidates for office "because their riches from the tobacco, asbestos and other mass-injury lawsuits enable them toe be largely self-funded."
2. Tort Lawyers as Political Contributors:
Trial lawyers have also become increasingly aggressive in lobbying Congress and state legislatures to oppose tort reform efforts. In 1999, trial lawyers contributed $2.7 million to the national Democratic Party254 and since January 1999 plaintiffs' attorneys have contributed more than $4 million to the Democratic Party, with millions more contributed to various candidates for federal office....Amazingly, lawyers and lobbyists have even surpassed labor unions and are now the biggest single industry supporter of Democratic Party committees, having shelled out $11.6 million for 2000, exceeding the $11.3 million donated by labor unions.255 When tort reform legislation went to the floor of the United States Senate in spring 2000, trial lawyers rallied $508,000 to contribute to Democratic Senate campaigns. Link

An Associated Press analysis of Federal Election Commission records gathered by the Campaign Study Group, a non-partisan business that collects data on political donations, found that Edwards, a former trial lawyer, received $3,450 in contributions from computer industry sources and $429,672 from trial lawyers. Helms received no contributions from the computer industry and $2,550 from trial lawyers. Link

15 posted on 10/08/2001 11:22:35 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: RoseofTexas
As a totally devoted pubbie, I do have to say that I did see Edwards on the O'Reilly show and I have to tell you, this guy has charisma!

AARRRGGHHH! That was the whole reason Clinton got elected and stayed in office for 8 years! I wish women wouldn't use charisma as the litmus test for their heroes. Wish they'd use more of their brains.

Women's tendency to be induced by charisma is what the DNC is counting on tho. That's why I saw a story on Edwards in Better Homes and Gardens last week. And we'll see lots of him on all the women's shows.

16 posted on 10/08/2001 11:32:40 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
It's a shame all they can think about is running for office during a national crisis. NC should be embarrassed for offering this punk to the nation.
17 posted on 10/08/2001 11:32:49 AM PDT by boycott
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To: johnny7
Yep. In the first 20 weeks after President Bush's inaugeration, Edwards was the third most popular guest on the Sunday talk shows. Couldn't have been his seniority, his position as head of a department, his expertise on anything. The Dems. have been grooming him since the 80s. Check out post #15 and Thread #1 (link above) from July which has more info on Edward's history.
18 posted on 10/08/2001 11:34:09 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: what's up
I saw a story on Edwards in Better Homes and Gardens last week..

Sigh. National Federation of Independent Business rating:Senator Jesse Helms 100, Senator John Edwards 8. All those garden centers, realtors and independent business owners are being duped by Edwards and Better Homes and Gardens. He is not a friend of those who believe in personal responsibility and good-old American ingenuity and enterprise.

19 posted on 10/08/2001 1:13:29 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl, YaYa123
What a WONDERFUL source of information! I can't believe you did all this work!
20 posted on 10/08/2001 1:32:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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